Elections in Democracy government type

[selenhogamer 20]

An idea i've made in a older topic:

Laws: Laws define how the government works and its policies, making it more immersive to change regimes, they work in different categories going from sociopolitical issues to government & economic issues, they would be approved if the majority if the parliament approves the law.

Parliament: The Parliament is composed by a certain number of seats, defined by the laws. It would be divided betweent the government and the opposition, if the opposition is very popular and angry it may coup the government and impose the laws they support, forcing the government to collaborate with the opposition.

Parties: Each party defends an ideology, endorsing some laws and condemning others. Each party have a pressure ( percentage of seats in the Parliament ) and can propose laws according to the ideology that they defend. The parties can make coalition with others that have a similar ideology to get majorty in the Parliament.

Ideology: They define what each party supports, with minor variations. Some of them focus at reforming political liberty and guaranteeing social rights, while others focus at revoking these rights.

Some ideologies ideas list:

• Liberal
• Conservative
• Social-democratic
• Communist
• Fascist
• Authoritarian
• Anarchist

Edited January 16, 2024 by selenhogamer

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

37 minutes ago, selenhogamer said:

An idea i've made in a older topic:

Laws: Laws define how the government works and its policies, making it more immersive to change regimes, they work in different categories going from sociopolitical issues to government & economic issues, they would be approved if the majority if the parliament approves the law.

Parliament: The Parliament is composed by a certain number of seats, defined by the laws. It would be divided betweent the government and the opposition, if the opposition is very popular and angry it may coup the government and impose the laws they support, forcing the government to collaborate with the opposition.

Parties: Each party defends an ideology, endorsing some laws and condemning others. Each party have a pressure ( percentage of seats in the Parliament ) and can propose laws according to the ideology that they defend. The parties can make coalition with others that have a similar ideology to get majorty in the Parliament.

Ideology: They define what each party supports, with minor variations. Some of them focus at reforming political liberty and guaranteeing social rights, while others focus at revoking these rights.

Some ideologies ideas list:

• Liberal
• Conservative
• Social-democratic
• Communist
• Fascist
• Authoritarian
• Anarchist

And maybe also separatist ? They make referendums for independence.

[Outlawexperience 338]

I think when elections happen, they could be in a form of events, with 2 events for each election happening:

 

Event 1: 2 weeks left until election!

 

Outcome effect: Election event starts, opposition parties are being very active to gain popularity (support) in the civilization.

 

Event 2: (Civilization)Elections result/ (insert leader/party name here) wins the elections in (Civilization)

Outcome name should depend on if your government won or lost the elections, for a party/leader to win elections, they need to gain the majority of ideology popularity/support in the civilization 

Outcome effect: winners party come in power, leader changes and government changes if not democratic subideology/party (example: if conservatives or social democrats win, country stays a democracy or constitutional monarchy, if communists or fascists win, new government system is established)

Extra idea: in ideology text file there should be a way to make a government democratic (with elections) or not, like how you can make a government revolutionary in aoh2, and also a way to add parties/ subideologies like conservatives, social democrats, liberals etc...

There is my idea on how events could work. Hope you liked it, if I should add something, reply to me about it

Question for Łukazs: Do you have any confirmed plans to add elections to Aoh3 ?

[Outlawexperience 338]

9 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

And maybe also separatist ? They make referendums for independence.

That is a great idea, it would work better than rebels

[Outlawexperience 338]

By the way I like the fact that you got inspired by my topic about elections 👍 

Good luck for the development of Age of history 3

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

The button ''change of government '' would take more sense if when you click on monarchy, you make it gain more popularity until the next election. If the monarchy won, the government would crown a king.

[new lakhal 2.0 142]

On 1/15/2024 at 8:29 AM, Imro692 said:

On 1/14/2024 at 9:04 PM, agah said:

مرحبًا Lukasz، أريدك حقًا أن تضع الوضع التاريخي في Age of History 3، تمامًا مثل EU4 وHOI4. وإلا ألن يكون غريباً جداً أن يتقاتل مينغ والجزائر بلا سبب في سيناريو 1440؟

Algeria did not exist in 444, but rather the Kingdom of Tlemcen or (Zayyanid dynasty) existed.

Game it's just in alpha, civilization for 1440 is Don't exist yet 

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

18 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

The button ''change of government '' would take more sense if when you click on monarchy, you make it gain more popularity until the next election. If the monarchy won, the government would crown a king.

And possibly make the same thing to others countries for influence, and coup is more radical.

[Outlawexperience 338]

Party popularity could be boosted by selecting a specific one and then boosted by tools like propaganda. The propaganda becomes more effective if there are certain technologies like radio, TV, Internet, etc...

[Outlawexperience 338]

Just now, Outlawexperience said:

Party popularity could be boosted by selecting a specific one and then boosted by tools like propaganda. The propaganda becomes more effective if there are certain technologies like radio, TV, Internet, etc...

+ if your ruling government does bad (example stability is low, bad economy management, loses wars) then he loses party popularity and the opposing parties popularity grows, and if it does well then its party popularity grows. The effect should be greater on how bad/ good your ruling government does.

 

+ to make it challenging to stay at power, the opposing parties will be active at spreading propaganda, but they cannot when certain laws like freedom of press are restricted, or if some parties are banned (banning parties lowers stability instantly, but increases it overtime

[Minemaster552 23]

This is not a comment about elections, but Advisors in democratic governments could become ministers instead. Perhaps even in constitutional monarchies?

[Magnum 57]

As a new mechanic you could finance parties of your ideology, obviously the country could discover it and lower your prestige if you are not a superpower 

[Redguy325 240]

I gave my own ideas but it became so large I wrote it on another topic 

 

[Rodak Polak 597]

I think it is unwise to name every party in every democratic country. It is a lot of unnecessary work because some parties disappear, others appear and others change their views.

I would create 9 parties in every democratic country:

In countries with a 2-party system (like the United States), there should also be 9 parties (because even their 2 parties change throughout history, wandering around the entire political compass), but only the 2 parties with the greatest support would get into parliament. 

I also believe that only one chamber of parliament is enough. Why make it more difficult by adding another one.

Democracy should not be able to be changed to another system unless the party wins:

• authoritarian-leftist - the possibility of changing the political system to communism
• authoritarian-centrist - the possibility of changing the system to fascism/nazism
• authoritarian-right - the possibility of changing the system to a monarchy

[Redguy325 240]

So I made another post, again too large so I made my own topic. This time about Elections per se

 

Edited February 12, 2024 by Redguy325

[Joaoj 105]

@Łukasz JakowskiHave you abandoned the idea or are you still thinking about adding it? 

[Matvey 252]

Everything is fine, but it is worth noting that the electoral system exists not only in bourgeois parliamentary and presidential republics/constitutional monarchies. This aspect of politics also exists under socialist/communist regimes.

It is worth making the option of the presence or absence of parliament separate from the ideolony mechanics. Let this become a special opportunity in states with parliament to more accurately determine the essence of their regime by choosing a “faction”.

Example: The ideology of the state is communism, and the strongest faction in parliament is syndicalist. Or the ideology is fascism, and the faction is the Nazis. Or the “ideology” is a constitutional monarchy, and the faction is the Agrarian Party

[Redguy325 240]

Has this Idea been abandoned? Or moved towards some potential DLC in the future? 
NGL this would one of the best mechanics for this game. 

[Outlawexperience 338]

1 hour ago, Redguy325 said:

Has this Idea been abandoned? Or moved towards some potential DLC in the future? 
NGL this would one of the best mechanics for this game. 

I think we all forgot about it, it could have potential but the problem is: how to implement it

[Redguy325 240]

28 minutes ago, Outlawexperience said:

I think we all forgot about it, it could have potential but the problem is: how to implement it

(I could send my proposal again, but maybe it would be too much to constantly advertise my own ideas)

[Fire Quickly 42]

Returning to this topic, I think the aspect of at least elections in the game is necessary, at a minimum, it will diversify the gameplay in modern times, at most, it is an excellent canvas for various new mechanics and gameplay

[Fire Quickly 42]

Let's start again this topic, I would like to see this part of the game on release

[usernamelplol 38]

Please dont forget this idea Lukas it is esstional to modern day poltics (1900s or so onwards) @Łukasz Jakowski

[sc00614 32]

Has this idea been abandoned?  Or might we see a system around elections in a future update after the game launches?

[sc00614 32]

I hope that the national electoral system has not been abandoned. At present, it seems that the leaders of monarchy countries will die and be replaced when they reach a certain age (after all, the current game videos show that only monarchy countries will replace their leaders). If democratic parliamentary systems and presidential republics It’s also strange that the leader is not replaced until he dies due to age.