Demanded Provinces: A Price to Pay

[Łukasz Jakowski 13,395]

In a peace treaty, when a civilization demands provinces from another civilization, all demanded provinces will experience a reduction in tax efficiency, economy, manpower, and growth rate to reflect resistance against the aggressor.

However, if the civilization has a core in the province, the province will not lose any of these values.

 

Values can be changed in: game/gameValues/GV_Diplomacy.json

[OwnM3Z0 1,102]

this is pretty nice, maybe try adding a small population decrease to reflect people migrating away to be within the new borders, i think its a good idea and quite realistic

[neverger84 86]

It is possible to through editing that value add some unrest percentage literally too?
Like not to unrest growth but immediately +10% to unrest right after demand for example

Edited October 5, 2024 by neverger84

[ARWD 107]

3 minutes ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

this is pretty nice, maybe try adding a small population decrease to reflect people migrating away to be within the new borders, i think its a good idea and quite realistic

Man you have great ideas you always amaze us with your ideas

[Dipto479 117]

local manpower -90%

Edited October 5, 2024 by Dipto479

[Dipto479 117]

if Democratic Ideology + weekly unrest growth

[DRM 105]

ln addition to the mentioned reductions, the demanded provinces could experience a slight temporary decrease in the production of basic resources, reflecting the adjustment of control by the aggressor civilization.

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

Nice feature !

new civs in Genoa!

[qxz 622]

I believe it should also suffer from population decline, reflecting the migration of the local population to their core provinces.

[Omar2806 10]

Excuse my ignorance , what are the core mechanics ? what is it and what does it do 🤡

[Łukasz Jakowski 13,395]

Core is a legitimate part of Civilization.

[Mr. Rufus 42]

On 10/5/2024 at 4:21 PM, Omar2806 said:

Excuse my ignorance , what are the core mechanics ? what is it and what does it do 🤡

if I had a dollar for how many times someone has asked that and how many times Lukasz has answered that, i'd be Elon Musk at this point

Edited October 6, 2024 by Mr. Rufus
grammar correction

[Praefectus Italicum 36]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Rufus said:

if  had a dollar for how many times someone has asked that and how many times Lukasz has answered that, i'd be Elon Musk at this point

we need a AOH dictionary at this point)))))))

[KingoftheHams 2]

Is this a permanent decrease or does the rates go back up after a point?

[Marerjh 284]

Way too punishing reductions... wasn't tax reduction in non-cored provinces enought? Loosing half the economy after annexation will make wars pointless...

[sc00614 32]

If there is a more obvious core territory mechanism in the game, can the AI prefer to establish vassals for non-core territories after the war based on this mechanism, rather than directly seizing them?

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 293]

2 hours ago, Marerjh said:

Way too punishing reductions... wasn't tax reduction in non-cored provinces enought? Loosing half the economy after annexation will make wars pointless...

Not if its a country with double your economy.

[Marerjh 284]

3 hours ago, YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan said:

Not if its a country with double your economy.

Good luck conquering country with double the economy🫠

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 293]

6 minutes ago, Marerjh said:

Good luck conquering country with double the economy🫠

Ever heard of the Console?

[Marerjh 284]

7 minutes ago, YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan said:

Ever heard of the Console?

I'm talking about balance during normal gameplay. The console is used for fun, and its functionality cannot be taken into account when balancing game mechanics. 

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 293]

26 minutes ago, Marerjh said:

I'm talking about balance during normal gameplay. The console is used for fun, and its functionality cannot be taken into account when balancing game mechanics. 

fair point 

[Marerjh 284]

14 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

In a peace treaty, when a civilization demands provinces from another civilization, all demanded provinces will experience a reduction in tax efficiency, economy, manpower, and growth rate to reflect resistance against the aggressor.

However, if the civilization has a core in the province, the province will not lose any of these values.

 

Values can be changed in: game/gameValues/GV_Diplomacy.json

With this feature included, we need a way to gain cores, because currently it is simply not possible. Either by events (lack of "add core" outcome is just crazy) or espionage 😛

Edited October 6, 2024 by Marerjh

[sc00614 32]

20 hours ago, Marerjh said:

With this feature included, we need a way to gain cores, because currently it is simply not possible. Either by events (lack of "add core" outcome is just crazy) or espionage 😛

Maybe we can follow the example of CK3 and let the spy system in AOH3 "forge territorial core claims" for us.

[KingoftheHams 2]

will the penalty still apply if the civ is destroyed?

[Yahya 43]

It will be great for balance and fixing border gore if more penalties(specially unrest)where giving to exclave Provinces and not removed until they connect to the mainland

That will discourage players and AI from taking the highest value provinces far from them (like a capital) , it will also force them to form colonies when they conquer another continent, instead of simply annexing everything