Land units - Ideas AoH3

[Jurgen1 1]

The current system looks very good not too simple and not too complicated either, I would suggest that the terrain and rivers should play a bigger role, that would give the player or ai a chance if faced against a enemy with high level generals, you would get a fair chance to survive when playing as a small nation.

1 if your units have very low morale they have a chance to desert.

2 if you have negative balance in your treasury for too long ( 60 or 100 days for example ) the army can rebel.

3 units that you have recruited in provinces that arent your primary culture should have a higher chance to rebel when in low morale or negative treasury, ultimately they would declare independence from you if not dealt with. i think that this would make it harder for the player to steamroll the ai.

4 in modern eras if many units are present in a single province they should get stats debuff but a slight morale increase, the longer they stay in said province the higher public unrest goes. this should prevent the unrealistic creation of doomstacks in modern eras and more realistic battles.

5 encirclements in modern eras.

[Ares I of Congo 88]

There could be longbowmen which would be more advanced than the crossbowmen

[Mov 107]

1 hour ago, Poland_in_1939 said:

i dont like the idea of a plane being in a division as it is a plane  its not staying in one spot in the air and waits, it lands or flies in battlefield, it should not be in a division type thing in my opinion  in mountains will it land on the tip or fly back and forth infinitly? the rest is wonderful and i wasnt even expecting it to be so cool, just the plane is my pain but the whole idea and stuff is just great, hope there is no time limit for plsyers to unlock technology, or a command that allows us to skip time issue, i want to see cavemans fight a tank division lol

 

also there is no logic for planes to be in division, not everywhere is a place to land etc, it should be a different type of thing, not in a division, something more like hoi4 stuff, even tho im not fan of hoi4, this is a solution that would be better

Yeah, airforce should a be a separated division

[Poland_in_1939 629]

2 hours ago, LCM said:

Maybe you could add different types of weapons like muskets, swords to the game where you would choose the weapon that the type of unit would be using, however they would have to be in different groups of weapons because a archer cannot use a sword. For example:

We could have ranged weapons and melee weapons (possibly more)

Ranged weapons would be used by archers infantry, etc.

While melee weapons would be used by knights, cavalry, etc.

And you could upgrade/unlock weapons using unlocked technologies with an "Weapon Panel".

And then to make your troops use the weapon on the battle there could be a small green button that would assign a line with an weapon that you chose via a small panel, depending on the weapon you chose the units would suffer different boosts of attack and speed, with some weapons having better stats than others.

Well i think that's it, but maybe there could also be that you could add an weapon and units (like the "Add civilization" in aoh2) mainly for mods tho.

Sorry for bad writing and broken english on some parts 

game should be simple, its not a hoi4 real world simulator, it is a aoh series, the game that keeps the things simple and fun, the game that is easy to understand and playable on phone, dont make army have different weapons etc, there will be a lot of new infantry etc anyway, modders will be able to mod, they can make it complicated for people if they want to, but in this series we dont look for very realistic game, at least thats what im getting from it, the way Łukasz is presenting it is great, just technology for new type of unit so it will be fitting its time etc, and not a number fighting, and it will include the technology advantage, which was not present in aoh2, my opinion on it (just the planes, i will pray he changes them)

[SyntaXenon 5]

That great! It would be cool if you added different equipment to equip the troops such as blades, ammo or guns and stylize the troops for lets say the romans to china or the tanks from germany to usa to make it look distinct with their different bonuses

[Kraken 1]

Futuristic units would be nice, a level beyond modern day, like laser rifle infantry and whatnot. Also please add nukes. Please.

 

 

[Lipark JP modder 143]

Thanks for reading this posts.

what i suggest for your game is special units.

special units are recruitable in different regions.

let's give an example :

Nordic Axemen is a very powerful Viking unit. The blow was high and became the foundation of the Baltic Empire.

Ravenna Elite Crossbowmen is an Italian unit. He was hired and worked as a mercenary in various places.

Longbowmen is an English unit. It played a major role in the Hundred Years' War, defeating the outnumbered French heavy cavalry.

Winged Hassers is a Polish unit. We had an advantageous position against the powerful Mongol army and the Ottoman army.

Also, it would be more interesting if we could add era-limited units.

Waffen Schutzstaffe1 is German unit. This elite unit terrorized the Soviet Union during the German-Soviet War.

By adding these units, you can enjoy more historically compliant play.

2 hours ago, bizacjum said:

Special unit per country: Phalanx (Macedonia), legions (Rome). 

Specialist units : Mountain infantry

I reffered this posts.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Lipark JP modder

[LCM 4]

2 hours ago, Poland_in_1939 said:

game should be simple, its not a hoi4 real world simulator, it is a aoh series, the game that keeps the things simple and fun, the game that is easy to understand and playable on phone, dont make army have different weapons etc, there will be a lot of new infantry etc anyway, modders will be able to mod, they can make it complicated for people if they want to, but in this series we dont look for very realistic game, at least thats what im getting from it, the way Łukasz is presenting it is great, just technology for new type of unit so it will be fitting its time etc, and not a number fighting, and it will include the technology advantage, which was not present in aoh2, my opinion on it (just the planes, i will pray he changes them)

I mean it's not even that complex, my concept is basically just bonuses that you can upgrade and unlock with technology and that you put them into your units for more attack, defense speed etc, i dont think it's too complex to it reach hoi4 levels, plus it would make the armies have different stats even if they are same type of unit, and weapons would be way cheaper than unlocking a different unit for example

Edited December 6, 2023 by LCM

[Noobs Dudes 216]

ARTILLERY ONLY! But other than artillery, there should be a thing on the unit file that makes it impossible to obtain them during certain ages. Like obviously you shouldn't be using archers during world war two. But, I guess you should be able to give certain unit tech for scenarios, so realistic Italian-ethiopian war. Also, unit tech shouldn't delete when you reach a certain age, only when you play on a scenario where that certain unit tech becomes out of fashion, it shouldn't be obtainable. I doubt anyone would play for this long, but it would be memey to do tanks vs crossbowmen lol.

[davidtjk 238]

8 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

In this topic we will write ideas for new land units. 

 

AoH3 will have different types of land units.

 

First of all, the AoH 3 will have new battle system:

Representation of the battlefield in the game.

 

Land units will be grouped into 3 types.

Groups determine the placement of units on the battlefield.

 

 

Each unit can be unlocked by researching technology and then upgraded.

Units will have a different recruitment cost, attack, defense, movement speed and upkeep.

 

Here is the current list of units with upgrades:

First line:

Warrior -> Light Footmen -> Heavy Infantry -> Infantry -> Line Infantry -> Modern Infantry

Hoplites -> Spearmen -> Pikeman -> Elite Pikeman -> Musketeer -> Riflemen -> Mechanized Infantry -> Modern Mechanized Infantry

First line side:

Horseman -> Elite Horseman -> Cavalry -> Tank -> Modern Tank

Second line:

Archer -> Bowmen -> Crossbowman -> Elite Crossbowman

Canon -> Field Cannon -> Artillery -> Modern Artillery

Early Airplane -> Airplane -> Modern Airplane

 

This is a very early version, so maybe something should be changed?

Or maybe an idea for a new type of unit with upgrades? I'm waiting for your suggestions.

 

So lukaz would we have the ability to make our own special land unit?

Edited December 6, 2023 by davidtjk

[Lipark JP modder 143]

6 hours ago, Poland_in_1939 said:

game should be simple, its not a hoi4 real world simulator, it is a aoh series, the game that keeps the things simple and fun, the game that is easy to understand and playable on phone, dont make army have different weapons etc, there will be a lot of new infantry etc anyway, modders will be able to mod, they can make it complicated for people if they want to, but in this series we dont look for very realistic game, at least thats what im getting from it, the way Łukasz is presenting it is great, just technology for new type of unit so it will be fitting its time etc, and not a number fighting, and it will include the technology advantage, which was not present in aoh2, my opinion on it (just the planes, i will pray he changes them)

play AoH2.

the more time passed, the more exciting and complicated features people want.

I'm really agreed with the new land units idea because we can finally play true war simulator.

[ibo 3]

i hope its gonna be free and avalible for mobile users

[mustic 1]

Every country has a unique unit like Timurids having elephants. That’s why I think you should add those units to those specific countries. Also when you invade those countries you can get their units as well.

I know that you will add this but It would be weird if we were attacking countries with bows and arrows in the 2023 scenario. 

[Poland_in_1939 629]

29 minutes ago, Lipark JP modder said:

play AoH2.

the more time passed, the more exciting and complicated features people want.

I'm really agreed with the new land units idea because we can finally play true war simulator.

can you even read? i did not day anything bad about new units but the planes, just the changable weapons for units would be a little worse idea

[Consuljuli 3]

Add system of hiring mercenaries from other state and add varieties(historical) for mercenaries 

Add missile launcher or missle launching truck unit in artillery group

Add horse archers like the nomadic states used to have

[Redguy325 240]

My idea is maybe similar to EU4, but it's interresting nonethless.

Some players would want countries to have unique troops, but in this system I have another idea.

Groups of Technology (or however it would be named) that differ stats for different regions. For example Eastern Europe Group would have better stats for pre-modern cavarly, north America better aviation etc.

Every tag would have to have assigned group

Edited December 6, 2023 by Redguy325
Fix

[桑榆不是鱼 174]

that is great,however , i think navy is also important,i dont want a sea war with land army.with warship you can see the strong of England,with can protect itself from strong France land army

[HUSKYFRESK0 3]

@Лукаш Яковский
есть возможность добавить в игру личные юниты, которые будут с какой-либо страной (например, в Индии Боевые Слоны).
А также возможность делать персональную технику для стран.

[new lakhal 2.0 142]

14 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

In this topic we will write ideas for new land units. 

 

AoH3 will have different types of land units.

 

First of all, the AoH 3 will have new battle system:

Representation of the battlefield in the game.

 

Land units will be grouped into 3 types.

Groups determine the placement of units on the battlefield.

 

 

Each unit can be unlocked by researching technology and then upgraded.

Units will have a different recruitment cost, attack, defense, movement speed and upkeep.

 

Here is the current list of units with upgrades:

First line:

Warrior -> Light Footmen -> Heavy Infantry -> Infantry -> Line Infantry -> Modern Infantry

Hoplites -> Spearmen -> Pikeman -> Elite Pikeman -> Musketeer -> Riflemen -> Mechanized Infantry -> Modern Mechanized Infantry

First line side:

Horseman -> Elite Horseman -> Cavalry -> Tank -> Modern Tank

Second line:

Archer -> Bowmen -> Crossbowman -> Elite Crossbowman

Canon -> Field Cannon -> Artillery -> Modern Artillery

Early Airplane -> Airplane -> Modern Airplane

 

This is a very early version, so maybe something should be changed?

Or maybe an idea for a new type of unit with upgrades? I'm waiting for your suggestions.

 

Maybe you should add spacial forces

Damage 12

defense 8

and speed move 4.7

[new lakhal 2.0 142]

14 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

In this topic we will write ideas for new land units. 

 

AoH3 will have different types of land units.

 

First of all, the AoH 3 will have new battle system:

Representation of the battlefield in the game.

 

Land units will be grouped into 3 types.

Groups determine the placement of units on the battlefield.

 

 

Each unit can be unlocked by researching technology and then upgraded.

Units will have a different recruitment cost, attack, defense, movement speed and upkeep.

 

Here is the current list of units with upgrades:

First line:

Warrior -> Light Footmen -> Heavy Infantry -> Infantry -> Line Infantry -> Modern Infantry

Hoplites -> Spearmen -> Pikeman -> Elite Pikeman -> Musketeer -> Riflemen -> Mechanized Infantry -> Modern Mechanized Infantry

First line side:

Horseman -> Elite Horseman -> Cavalry -> Tank -> Modern Tank

Second line:

Archer -> Bowmen -> Crossbowman -> Elite Crossbowman

Canon -> Field Cannon -> Artillery -> Modern Artillery

Early Airplane -> Airplane -> Modern Airplane

 

This is a very early version, so maybe something should be changed?

Or maybe an idea for a new type of unit with upgrades? I'm waiting for your suggestions.

 

Also question

Does modern units be available in scenarios like modern day scenario 

[ibo 3]

will the map editor usable in mobile?

[yelinmyathein 0]

I like the idea.Your new unit system is very impressive.I have one suggestion.You know all strategy games are all the same.They produce units and fight and recruit again.But after seeing your unit system,I am surprised that your unit system will be cool by adding resources which supply armies.(resources-corn,oil)

[YusufAliDE 246]

OMG

[AYOUBAYB7 4]

Post-battle development and variety should be added to the battalions 

[negus 0]

16 hours ago, MeteHun said:

I thought of the Ankara war between the Timurid state and the Ottoman state.
Emir Timur brought an elephant.
Elephants could be added to the Timurid empire before tanks.

Roman war elephants - Wikipedia
Every country should have them