Patriotic Wars and international relations [IDEA]

[Das Moss Man 487]

Hello my mein people today we'll be talking about patriotic-wars, and international relations. I will divide  my idea into segments to make it more easy to digest. Starting with, patriotic wars: What I mean by patriotic Wars is buffs for defensive wars. But first you need to enact some propaganda laws, then you can declare a patriotic war. Which gives some bonuses to your troops, like, cheaper units, faster divisions, and more volunteer troops. More authoritarian nations would  be faster at diong this.

Second, international relations: After the 24 of october 1945, declaring war on someone was declared illegal. So if you declare war on someone  past this date it should decrease relations democratic nations, lets say 10 points, the authoritarian nations wouldn't care. And if one trade with you, or has more than 50 relations with you nothing will change. (Srry if I'm too short)

That's it give da critism  :-Þ

Edited June 17, 2024 by Das Moss Man

[Das Moss Man 487]

@Łukasz Jakowski what do you think?

 

 

 

(Pls respond)

[Das Moss Man 487]

>An example would be, barbarossa. The soviets are Authoritarian  propaganda  machines.

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[Das Moss Man 487]

propaganda I > propaganda II > propaganda III > Declare a patriotic war. This would be the order of the laws

Edited June 17, 2024 by Das Moss Man

[Das Moss Man 487]

It would be nice if the game used real propaganda instead of ai generated stuff

Edited June 17, 2024 by Das Moss Man

[AmericanLiberia 74]

Maybe the second point is too much 😛
It probably mean half of the world would be at war in anytime, because AI. But the idea of a Symbolic War is damn great. Maybe can be called some like that, so the religious wars can be chased in the category.

[Das Moss Man 487]

This would only be for defensive wars, cause if it we're for all types of war then I feel that it would have less impact

[Das Moss Man 487]

15 hours ago, AmericanLiberia said:

Maybe the second point is too much 😛
It probably mean half of the world would be at war in anytime, because AI. But the idea of a Symbolic War is damn great. Maybe can be called some like that, so the religious wars can be chased in the category.

Danke :-Þ

[Das Moss Man 487]

This could also tue in with a holy war feature, and civ legacies.

[Das Moss Man 487]

Agian, russia ww2 is a massive part of their culture

[Das Moss Man 487]

A "WW2" national spirit for russia would be really interesting. Since like I said WW2 is a massive part of their culture

[Matvey 252]

On 6/17/2024 at 6:24 PM, Das Moss Man said:

>An example would be, barbarossa. The soviets are Authoritarian  propaganda  machines.

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Authoritarian? When propaganda focus on the idea of defending the Fatherland and one’s freedoms from capitalism and its monstrous creation, fascism

Edited June 18, 2024 by Matvey

[Matvey 252]

1 hour ago, Das Moss Man said:

Agian, russia ww2 is a massive part of their culture

Firstly, not Russia, but the USSR or the RSFSR as a last resort.
Secondly, not the WW2, but The Great Patriotic War(Великая Отечественная Война)

[Das Moss Man 487]

Just now, Matvey said:

Firstly, not Russia, but the USSR or the RSFSR as a last resort.
Secondly, not the WW2, but The Great Patriotic War(Великая Отечественная Война)

Srry if I'm misinformed, but isn't the great patriotic  war the one agianst the German?

[Matvey 252]

2 hours ago, Das Moss Man said:

Srry if I'm misinformed, but isn't the great patriotic  war the one agianst the German?

I'm sorry, but there may be a translation problem. The Great Patriotic War is a common noun. In the splinter states of the USSR, this is the name given to the war between the USSR and the Third Reich. It stands out as separate because of its ideological basis. It was not just a war between countries, but a confrontation between two diametrically opposed socio-economic formations. This is precisely what the propaganda focused on.

 

If I misinterpreted your question due to language issues, please let me know.

[AmericanLiberia 74]

4 hours ago, Matvey said:

Authoritarian? When propaganda focus on the idea of defending the Fatherland and one’s freedoms from capitalism and its monstrous creation, fascism

You are pretty ideological, huh. Fascism is not capitalism, it is a third branch, almost a neo-feudalism if you like

[AmericanLiberia 74]

4 hours ago, Das Moss Man said:

Srry if I'm misinformed, but isn't the great patriotic  war the one agianst the German?

The russians see the Second World War as something only of them against the fascist, I assume because of ideology. So yes.

[Stronk Germony 2]

Ya this ist an amazing idea mien Deutsche friend

Edited June 18, 2024 by Stronk Germony

[Das Moss Man 487]

1 hour ago, Stronk Germony said:

Ya this ist an amazing idea mien Deutsche friend

Ja*

[Matvey 252]

13 hours ago, AmericanLiberia said:

You are pretty ideological, huh. Fascism is not capitalism, it is a third branch, almost a neo-feudalism if you like

Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, the most chauvinistic, the most imperialist elements of finance capital.
Of course, fascism leads to the restoration of class society, but fascism itself is the highest stage of capitalism as a reaction to the crisis of imperialism and the growth of the trade union movement.

P.S. We are all ideologized in one way or another.

[AmericanLiberia 74]

10 hours ago, Matvey said:

Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, the most chauvinistic, the most imperialist elements of finance capital.
Of course, fascism leads to the restoration of class society, but fascism itself is the highest stage of capitalism as a reaction to the crisis of imperialism and the growth of the trade union movement.

P.S. We are all ideologized in one way or another.

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Eh, no, you can agree with some ideas of some ways of thinking without being ideological. I'm not gonna answer everything because is useless with you. For saying something, in the USSR also exist the classes: the high ranks and the rest. The bureaucracy generates that, because someone has to be up for say what has to be done.
Anyway, I not gonna answer anymore. Have a good day
Edit: oh, and if Fascism is the final stage of capitalism, we all shall live under it, huh

Edited June 19, 2024 by AmericanLiberia

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Matvey said:

Fascism is an open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, the most chauvinistic, the most imperialist elements of finance capital.
Of course, fascism leads to the restoration of class society, but fascism itself is the highest stage of capitalism as a reaction to the crisis of imperialism and the growth of the trade union movement.

P.S. We are all ideologized in one way or another.

blud's source (copy-paste), if anyone wants the sauce. https://www.marxists.org/archive/deborin/1936/fascism.htm

[Das Moss Man 487]

18 minutes ago, bun_dha4 said:

blud's source (copy-paste), if anyone wants the sauce. https://www.marxists.org/archive/deborin/1936/fascism.htm

Damn

[Das Moss Man 487]

:']

[Stronk Germony 2]

Wow so my son national socialist Germany technically made fascism.