Mechanics Horse Lords | AOH 3

[Денис Живков 422]

Players of strategy games, both old and young, well understand the meaning of the signs of rushing eastern hordes, galloping across the expanses of China, the Middle East and Europe, sweeping away everything in their path. There is not a single student of world or military history who would ignore the destructive phenomena and at the same time the enormous achievements of the most terrifying force in human history: the Mongols. Their very name pictures in our heads huge masses of horse archers capturing and plundering cities from Beijing to Baghdad. Unstoppable, ferocious warriors are present in almost every game dedicated to the Middle Ages.

           How many of us, experienced strategists, remember how huge concentrations of Mongols appeared on the edge of the map? How many of us who played Medieval Total War remember that roar of cavalry, a sea of living bodies trying to destroy all life?

As the name suggests, the idea allows players to experience a completely new nomad gameplay mechanic. A small area of Central Asia is now unlocked on the map. The middle-class players here are the steppe tribes, from the Uyghurs and Sogdians to the Mongols, who are the prototypes of long-lasting, vast empires that arose on a small scale.

Probably the most striking thing that this idea of mine introduces is “types of government.” In many types of government, the various holdings within a province are simply defined. The province that arose in the capital city was a small republic, and if there was a castle there, then there was feudalism. Now I propose that types of governments are coded in relation to peoples, taking into account their peculiar natural mechanics. This implementation of the forms of standard rules is combined with a new “nomadic” form of government. Instead of the simple "tribal" control type that was present in previous expansions, there is now a new "nomadic" type with superior qualities, specifically designed for the Mongolian playstyle. To avoid fines, under feudal rule you need a castle, under a republic you need a city, and under nomadic rule you need only bare land. In other words, pastures for nomadic horses. The land you conquer will have to be plundered and burned to the ground.

This small step alone - making the game for nomadic alliances a radical departure from any other power in the game - and perhaps this will be the main reason to buy the game.

 

Instead of creating a new tab and where the player could summon his personal hordes of horsemen, this was done in the military interface, where the squad would have been if the player was playing for the Christian powers. This makes the interface clear despite new information.

       The emphasis has shifted away from money and towards prestige, which makes the atmosphere even more exciting and takes players back to Genghis Khan's famous meritocratic approach. Prestige is now an important factor in determining who becomes Hana's heir, as opposed to economic succession in the West.

       Another interesting innovation is the incentive mercenaries. Mercenary units are no longer coded into the game engine and movements can be formed. Help guide a member into the family mercenary squad, part of which will be more of the gold earned. Also, in the case of successful strategies with mercenaries, the characters will receive a share of prestige.

As the new mechanic encourages the creation of empty lands for grazing, one might wonder what becomes of the vassals in my new nomadic idea. Yes, the role of vassals has been significantly reduced in the life of the horde. As a rule, they are in the role of client states, possessing a new casus belli. Khan himself conducts internal politics with other clans. The idea of clans represents the various great houses of your vast horde. If the Khan does not distribute the land between the clans, then they may express dissatisfaction when they see that their leader does not share the pastures. In this case, a mutiny may occur, in which tens of thousands of soldiers may be involved. Managing clans on the one hand and managing vassals on the other will be the Sword of Damocles for Khan. While conquering and conquering someone is not particularly difficult for nomads, protecting a vast empire and keeping it from collapse will be very, very difficult.

 

However, maintaining a large and stable empire has a number of advantages. One of them, and this is another innovation, is the Silk Road. This news can be found in the trade tab, which shows regions connecting China (outside the visible map) and Europe. Provinces along the Silk Road receive bonuses to the economy, and this neighborhood is especially beneficial for cities in the provinces. Now trading powers will be able to build trading enterprises on the lands of such provinces, and not just, as was the case before, on the coast. Controlling the Silk Road is a surefire way to make a fortune.

       An interesting mechanic of the Silk Road is concerned with the fact that if in the event of war a given trade route is found, then everything “downstream” is immediately turned off. Those. If, for example, the Horde made a deal to raid a province near Tibet, then all provinces entering Damascus lose their bonuses. The traders will try to find another route (and there are several), but waiting for the new caravan to increase in speed will have a noticeable effect.

 

A new type of vassal should also be introduced into the game, which directly answers the greedy desires of the Khans. These are tributaries. Tributaries can now be subjugated through war, and this special type of vassal not only sends annual tribute, but also cannot refuse the Khan's conscription into war.

 

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@Łukasz Jakowski

Edited April 9 by Денис Живков
simple

[Денис Живков 422]

expert opinion on the ideas please:D

[Денис Живков 422]

This song is called "In Praise of Genghis Khan” or "гимн Монгольской Империи" and it fits very well into any time-lapse of nomads.

 

Edited April 17 by Денис Живков
I can send it song in private messages

[Wayne23lololh 486]

Perfect.

Maybe that nomadic must be only at war to gain prestige and manpower, and call it conquest ?

And the leader's death must divide the horde as separated entities, and be automatically rivals, while keeping in the same sphere.

 

Correct me if I make mistakes.

[Денис Живков 422]

6 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Perfect.

Maybe that nomadic must be only at war to gain prestige and manpower, and call it conquest ?

And the leader's death must divide the horde as separated entities, and be automatically rivals, while keeping in the same sphere.

 

Correct me if I make mistakes.

Not necessarily rivals, but the fact that the land is divided between the heirs is certain.

They must fight not only for manpower, but also for empty land, which brings them both population and manpower.

[Денис Живков 422]

They must threaten the world order at first because of their large army, but then their surroundings themselves will become stronger. The fact is that among nomads, their technological expertise can increase due to experience from wars in battles. Nomads also don’t have many buildings that they can own without penalties. They can build temples and that’s all, but from this their possession will cease to be empty and will not bring population and manpower

[Wayne23lololh 486]

Thanks to the corrections, your idea must be in the game.

[Денис Живков 422]

When I think about the majesty of nomads, I immediately hum these melodies

   

I had to delete the files that were downloaded because they take up a lot but if you want to listen to them they are called

Dschinghis Khan - Dschinghis Khan

Dschinghis Khan - Moscow

 

Edited April 16 by Денис Живков

[Денис Живков 422]

this is genius!

[GalacticCakes 126]

1 hour ago, Денис Живков said:

Los jugadores de juegos de estrategia, tanto jóvenes como mayores, comprenden bien el significado de los signos de las hordas orientales que se precipitan, galopando por las extensiones de China, Oriente Medio y Europa, arrasando con todo lo que encuentran a su paso. No hay un solo estudioso de la historia mundial o militar que ignore los fenómenos destructivos y al mismo tiempo los enormes logros de la fuerza más aterradora de la historia de la humanidad: los mongoles. Su mismo nombre representa en nuestras cabezas enormes masas de arqueros a caballo capturando y saqueando ciudades desde Beijing hasta Bagdad. Guerreros feroces e imparables están presentes en casi todos los juegos dedicados a la Edad Media.

           ¿Cuántos de nosotros, estrategas experimentados, recordamos cómo aparecieron enormes concentraciones de mongoles en el borde del mapa? ¿Cuántos de los que jugamos a Medieval Total War recordamos ese rugido de la caballería, un mar de cuerpos vivos que intentaban destruir toda la vida?

Como sugiere el nombre, la idea permite a los jugadores experimentar una mecánica de juego nómada completamente nueva. Una pequeña zona de Asia Central ahora está desbloqueada en el mapa. Los actores de clase media aquí son las tribus esteparias, desde los uigures y sogdianos hasta los mongoles, que son los prototipos de imperios vastos y duraderos que surgieron a pequeña escala.

Probablemente lo más sorprendente que introduce esta idea mía son los “tipos de gobierno”. En muchos tipos de gobierno, las distintas participaciones dentro de una provincia se definen simplemente. La provincia que surgió en la capital era una pequeña república, y si allí había un castillo, entonces había feudalismo. Ahora propongo que los tipos de gobiernos se codifiquen en relación con los pueblos, teniendo en cuenta su peculiar mecánica natural. Esta implementación de formas de reglas estándar se combina con una nueva forma de gobierno "nómada". En lugar del simple tipo de control "tribal" que estaba presente en expansiones anteriores, ahora hay un nuevo tipo "nómada" con cualidades superiores, diseñado específicamente para el estilo de juego mongol. Para evitar multas, bajo el gobierno feudal se necesita un castillo, bajo una república se necesita una ciudad y bajo un gobierno nómada sólo se necesita tierra desnuda. Es decir, pastos para caballos nómadas. La tierra que conquistes tendrá que ser saqueada y quemada hasta los cimientos.

Este pequeño paso por sí solo, hacer que el juego de alianzas nómadas se aleje radicalmente de cualquier otra potencia en el juego, y quizás esta sea la razón principal para comprar el juego.

 

En lugar de crear una nueva pestaña donde el jugador pudiera convocar a sus hordas personales de jinetes, esto se hizo en la interfaz militar, donde habría estado el escuadrón si el jugador estuviera jugando para los poderes cristianos. Esto deja la interfaz clara a pesar de la nueva información.

       El énfasis se ha desplazado del dinero al prestigio, lo que hace que la atmósfera sea aún más emocionante y devuelve a los jugadores al famoso enfoque meritocrático de Genghis Khan. El prestigio es ahora un factor importante para determinar quién se convierte en el heredero de Hana, a diferencia de la sucesión económica en Occidente.

       Otra innovación interesante son los mercenarios de incentivo. Las unidades mercenarias ya no están codificadas en el motor del juego y se pueden formar movimientos. Ayuda a guiar a un miembro hacia el escuadrón de mercenarios de la familia, parte del cual será más oro ganado. Además, en el caso de estrategias exitosas con mercenarios, los personajes recibirán una parte de prestigio.

Dado que la nueva mecánica fomenta la creación de tierras vacías para el pastoreo, uno podría preguntarse qué pasa con los vasallos en mi nueva idea nómada. Sí, el papel de los vasallos se ha reducido significativamente en la vida de la horda. Por regla general, desempeñan el papel de estados clientes y poseen un nuevo casus belli. El propio Khan lleva a cabo políticas internas con otros clanes. La idea de clanes representa las distintas grandes casas de tu vasta horda. Si el Khan no distribuye la tierra entre los clanes, entonces pueden expresar su descontento al ver que su líder no comparte los pastos. En este caso, puede producirse un motín en el que podrían estar involucrados decenas de miles de soldados. Gestionar clanes por un lado y gestionar vasallos por el otro será la Espada de Damocles para Khan. Si bien conquistar y conquistar a alguien no es particularmente difícil para los nómadas, proteger un vasto imperio y evitar que colapse será muy, muy difícil.

 

Sin embargo, mantener un imperio grande y estable tiene una serie de ventajas. Uno de ellos, y ésta es otra innovación, es la Ruta de la Seda. Esta noticia se puede encontrar en la pestaña de comercio, que muestra las regiones que conectan China (fuera del mapa visible) y Europa. Las provincias a lo largo de la Ruta de la Seda reciben bonificaciones para la economía y esta vecindad es especialmente beneficiosa para las ciudades de las provincias. Ahora las potencias comerciales podrán construir empresas comerciales en las tierras de esas provincias, y no sólo, como ocurría antes, en la costa. Controlar la Ruta de la Seda es una forma segura de hacer una fortuna.

       Una mecánica interesante de la Ruta de la Seda tiene que ver con el hecho de que si, en caso de guerra, se encuentra una ruta comercial determinada, todo lo que está “aguas abajo” se corta inmediatamente. Aquellos. Si, por ejemplo, la Horda hizo un trato para atacar una provincia cerca del Tíbet, todas las provincias que entren en Damasco perderán sus bonificaciones. Los comerciantes intentarán encontrar otra ruta (y hay varias), pero esperar a que la nueva caravana aumente su velocidad tendrá un efecto notable.

 

También debería introducirse en el juego un nuevo tipo de vasallo que responda directamente a los codiciosos deseos de los Khan. Estos son afluentes. Los tributarios ahora pueden ser subyugados mediante la guerra, y este tipo especial de vasallo no sólo envía tributo anual, sino que tampoco puede rechazar el reclutamiento del Khan para la guerra.

 

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@Łukasz Jakowski

I find it interesting to see more types of tribes.

[Alexey Navalny 243]

23 minutes ago, Денис Живков said:

When I think about the majesty of nomads, I immediately hum these melodies

 

 

 

 

[Денис Живков 422]

Just now, Alexey Navalny said:

 

[Alexey Navalny 243]

Just now, Денис Живков said:

no, this is not Neu Berlin. This a Mongol Empire oh noooo 😰

[Денис Живков 422]

4 minutes ago, GalacticCakes said:

I find it interesting to see more types of tribes.

what do you mean? indigenous tribes?

[Alexey Navalny 243]

7 minutes ago, Денис Живков said:

 

 

 

[Денис Живков 422]

Genghis Khan's Empire at the time of his death

[GalacticCakes 126]

Hace 30 minutos, Denis Живков dijo:

¿qué quieres decir? ¿Tribus indígenas?

Nomads would allow civilizations to move or expand their influence, just as you described but in a different way.Imagine that a civilization expands because it split in two, too I can also say that rapid conquest and great expansion such as the Mongol empire did not give as much stability, so it would need strong rulers like khan. Other types of tribes is what I mean by, for example, the lordship of the Aztecs. When you said about the indigenous tribes I remembered that there were more types of horde tribes.

[GalacticCakes 126]

Sorry if You dont understand it, I'm just half asleep xd

Edited April 9 by GalacticCakes

[Денис Живков 422]

5 minutes ago, GalacticCakes said:

Sorry if You dont understand it, I'm just half asleep xd

lol, Thanks for the explanation. Man, you're a genius! Hey

[thecarvalhogamer 24]

nice

[Денис Живков 422]

19 minutes ago, thecarvalhogamer said:

nice

I always try to maintain this level...

[Денис Живков 422]

I'm waiting for Lukash to read my idea. wait mode 

 

 

[Mihael1 55]

4 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

 

 

 

в crussader kings 2(3) -  Монголия жрёт все что эсть, и Киев СОЖРАЛ.

[Денис Живков 422]

2 minutes ago, Mihael1 said:

в crussader kings 2(3) -  Монголия жрёт все что эсть, и Киев СОЖРАЛ.

но так же быстро и теряет свои территории из-за административных проблем

[Mihael1 55]

1 minute ago, Денис Живков said:

но так же быстро и теряет свои территории из-за административных проблем

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