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7 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

-Elections for democratic countries

-objectives to do like Age of Imperialism fashion (like build fortresses objective, build workshops objective) would be a nice feature

-Is Gulf countries focus tree planned?

Uniting Arabs, declaring caliphate, strenghtening the autority of the ruler, an emancipation of colonialism...

Bolivia may want to reclaim it territories lost in the Chaco war to.Paraguay.

Paraguay was then supported by Italy in this war so it may take the oppurtunity to take revenge from Argentina. May became fascist.

Also why when Sweden unite with Norway, Denmark change it name to Denmark-Norway???

Also ideas from swissterland, join the allies, join the fascits, getting carved up by axis, unite with Austria, benefit from Axis gold.

Also add lichestein. Why andora have a place and lichestein not. It may unite with germany, with swiss stay neutral.

Also San marino need to be added since they also became fascist.

Also Danzig need a event tree.

Add event collapse of African colonies if France lost most of its land in Africa to avoid boder gore.

Finland can have an event like hoi4 in which they restore Anastasia Romanov, declare themselves provisional Russian gov, and reunite russia.

In general a monarchist path will be a nice add to Finland

Also if Italy choose to ally with Soviet Union, shouldn't it turn communist and Mussolini not remain in charge.

You should add the event of the Peruvian-Ecuadorian war of 1941 and fix Peru 1936 borders, Ecuador still controlled some land.

Is it possible to add D-Day, Operation Torch,Invasion of Italy, Operation Downfall as events? As a choice to be make

Philippines should be a puppet to America

Greece should have a fascit path when she restore ancient greeks colonies and declare itself the Republic of Ancient Hellas.

Is Hitler suicide event added?

Winter war and Recuperation war, Wehmarcht invasion of Finland.

Also if Hungary choose monarchist path, The event should not stop there, another event in which Hungary choose if the King should be Otto Von Habsburg-Reunification with Austria Path, A fascit King or a democatic King.

You have a lot of creativity. I already consider the TSGW to be the best mod with events in the ww2 scenario, but if all of your suggestions could be added, it'd become pretty much perfect

[Kerguelen Mapping 466]

plantocracy?

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23 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

I succesfully managed to merge Bloody Europe 1.3 with TSGW and played it, well it works.

Features :

-Nukes added

_ Genocide added

- When you take the enemy capital it surrender

- New mechanics added

-Events still work well

- New technologies

- New decisions

- Manpower and food mechanics added to increase realisticness

Downsides 

- Spanish Civil war still sucks

- All other dowsides previously mentionned still exist

Well I found a solution to rebellions that have no cultural justification, just supress the civs  that has no relation with WW2 nations, you will still have wacky situations like France declare war at France but not at Occitania. Well that mean that the inclusion of this mod in Age of Imperialism is a bad idea. Also fixing cores will fix this more efficiently.

Good job

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23 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

That indeed a very good idea. Can I use it in my southern victory and WW1 scenarios?

Sure

[Wooodex 225]

23 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

Well in oppose Hiler do not forget to add this guy:

 

Also adding Hitler assasination event, famous Valkyrie operation.

 

Also is fascit, democratic paths planned for Soviet Union?

This may sound weird, but remember national bolchevism is a thing and social democracy also.

Also Bukharin path may be a good idea.

 

Also I recommend you to supress Leaders unrelated to WW2.

Also Mao should be shown younger and also adding ReichKommisariats leaders.

Add also this leader:

Well this photos originate from a WW2 dead mod, no discord link nor download available. It is called Age if democracy you could take inspiration from his screenshots or collab with him if he come back.

August Von Mackensen will be added, he is planned.

Tell me more about that operation to assassinate Hitler

Soviet Union will not have a Fascist or Democratic path, but you will be able to start a civil war against Stalin as Trotsky.

I wanted to add new ideologies but they might break the game sadly

Tell me more about the Bukharin path

I will try to add as many ww2 leaders as possible and make there be as little modern leaders as possible do not worry.

Mao as younger does not sound like a bad idea, sure.

Who is Wang Ming?

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23 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

Also Can leaders change by event or by changing ideology??

Leaders do change by changing ideology

[Emir of Granada 822]

There were many attempts of killing Hitler:

The list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler

But the one I am interested in is 20 July plot. As it was carefully planned.

See Operation Valkyrie:

The 20 July plot was a failed attempt to assassinate the German dictator Adolf Hitler and overthrow the Nazi regime on 20 July 1944. The plotters were part of the German resistance, mainly composed of Wehrmacht officers.

The leader of the conspiracy, colonel Claus von Stauffenberg planned to kill Hitler by detonating an explosive hidden in a briefcase. However, it only slightly injured him. A few hours later, the conspiracy used Wehrmacht units to take control of several cities, including Berlin, right after giving them disinformation on the intention of the orders they were given. This part of the coup d'état attempt is referred to by the name "Operation Valkyrie", which also has become associated with the entire event.

Operation Valkyrie (German: Unternehmen Walküre) was a German World War II emergency continuity of government operations plan issued to the Territorial Reserve Army of Germany to execute and implement in the event of a general breakdown in civil order of the nation. Failure of the government to maintain control of civil affairs might have been caused by the Allied bombing of German cities, or uprising of the millions of foreign forced labourers working in German factories.

German Army (Heer) officers, General Friedrich Olbricht, Major General Henning von Tresckow and Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg modified the plan with the intention of using it to take control of German cities, disarm the SS, and arrest the Nazi leadership once Hitler had been assassinated in the 20 July plot. Hitler's death (as opposed to his arrest) was required to free German soldiers from their oath of loyalty to him (Reichswehreid). After lengthy preparation, the plot was activated in 1944 but failed.

[Emir of Granada 822]

Bukharin Path is inspired by TNO, since in TNO timeline Bukharin led a coup against Stalin and deposed him.

Bukharin continued with limited capitalism within USSR and never industrialize causing a far weaker USSR incapable of Defending against Germany.

[Emir of Granada 822]

Just a curious question, how adding ideologies can break the game?

Because I am too developping a mod  and I want your expertise.

[Emir of Granada 822]

Wang Ming was a senior leader of the early Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the mastermind of the famous 28 Bolsheviks group. He was a major political rival of Mao Zedong during the 1930s, opposing what he saw as Mao's nationalist deviation from the Comintern and orthodox Marxist-Leninist lines.

So basically a political rival of Mao, more loyal to soviet Union. 

[Emir of Granada 822]

and more orthodox in his beliefs

[Emir of Granada 822]

49 minutes ago, Wooodex said:

Good job

Thanks,

Just take my consideration my advice about suppressing civ non-related to WW2 to avoid rebels without cultural justification.

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21 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

-Elections for democratic countries

-objectives to do like Age of Imperialism fashion (like build fortresses objective, build workshops objective) would be a nice feature

-Is Gulf countries focus tree planned?

Uniting Arabs, declaring caliphate, strenghtening the autority of the ruler, an emancipation of colonialism...

Bolivia may want to reclaim it territories lost in the Chaco war to.Paraguay.

Paraguay was then supported by Italy in this war so it may take the oppurtunity to take revenge from Argentina. May became fascist.

Also why when Sweden unite with Norway, Denmark change it name to Denmark-Norway???

Also ideas from swissterland, join the allies, join the fascits, getting carved up by axis, unite with Austria, benefit from Axis gold.

Also add lichestein. Why andora have a place and lichestein not. It may unite with germany, with swiss stay neutral.

Also San marino need to be added since they also became fascist.

Also Danzig need a event tree.

Add event collapse of African colonies if France lost most of its land in Africa to avoid boder gore.

Finland can have an event like hoi4 in which they restore Anastasia Romanov, declare themselves provisional Russian gov, and reunite russia.

In general a monarchist path will be a nice add to Finland

Also if Italy choose to ally with Soviet Union, shouldn't it turn communist and Mussolini not remain in charge.

You should add the event of the Peruvian-Ecuadorian war of 1941 and fix Peru 1936 borders, Ecuador still controlled some land.

Is it possible to add D-Day, Operation Torch,Invasion of Italy, Operation Downfall as events? As a choice to be make

Philippines should be a puppet to America

Greece should have a fascit path when she restore ancient greeks colonies and declare itself the Republic of Ancient Hellas.

Is Hitler suicide event added?

Winter war and Recuperation war, Wehmarcht invasion of Finland.

Also if Hungary choose monarchist path, The event should not stop there, another event in which Hungary choose if the King should be Otto Von Habsburg-Reunification with Austria Path, A fascit King or a democatic King.

Elections might be added.

Objectives would not fit in with TSGW

Gulf countries might get events in the future, Iraq is the most likely our of them to get one

Could be interesting

Bolivia might get a focus tree, me and Eddie are currently focused on working on European countries but other countries will get events aswell

Paraguay starts off Communist, they will most likely get a tree for expansion in the future

That bug with Scandanavia will hopefully be fixed with my new fix for it

Switzerland might get events in the future, I will keep your suggestion in mind

These wars might be added

Hungary monarchist path event tree has been made, we just need to add it to the game

Liechenstein and San Marino are not needed

What content would the Danzig tree have?

African border gore will be fixed in next beta

Instead of Finland recreating the Rus Empire in TSGW its Latvia

Italy does turn Communist when a few events after they join the Soviet Union, new leader for Communist Italy will be added soon

Show me how the borders should look like, their war will be added in the future

Greece events tree is being worked on

Hitler suicide events has not been added yet

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5 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

Thanks,

Just take my consideration my advice about suppressing civ non-related to WW2 to avoid rebels without cultural justification.

If I did that there would be problems for other scenarios like 1815

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22 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

There were many attempts of killing Hitler:

The list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler

But the one I am interested in is 20 July plot. As it was carefully planned.

See Operation Valkyrie:

The 20 July plot was a failed attempt to assassinate the German dictator Adolf Hitler and overthrow the Nazi regime on 20 July 1944. The plotters were part of the German resistance, mainly composed of Wehrmacht officers.

The leader of the conspiracy, colonel Claus von Stauffenberg planned to kill Hitler by detonating an explosive hidden in a briefcase. However, it only slightly injured him. A few hours later, the conspiracy used Wehrmacht units to take control of several cities, including Berlin, right after giving them disinformation on the intention of the orders they were given. This part of the coup d'état attempt is referred to by the name "Operation Valkyrie", which also has become associated with the entire event.

Operation Valkyrie (German: Unternehmen Walküre) was a German World War II emergency continuity of government operations plan issued to the Territorial Reserve Army of Germany to execute and implement in the event of a general breakdown in civil order of the nation. Failure of the government to maintain control of civil affairs might have been caused by the Allied bombing of German cities, or uprising of the millions of foreign forced labourers working in German factories.

German Army (Heer) officers, General Friedrich Olbricht, Major General Henning von Tresckow and Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg modified the plan with the intention of using it to take control of German cities, disarm the SS, and arrest the Nazi leadership once Hitler had been assassinated in the 20 July plot. Hitler's death (as opposed to his arrest) was required to free German soldiers from their oath of loyalty to him (Reichswehreid). After lengthy preparation, the plot was activated in 1944 but failed.

Alright

 

[Wooodex 225]

16 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

Just a curious question, how adding ideologies can break the game?

Because I am too developping a mod  and I want your expertise.

Terrk told me it could break events and change nations ideology to something else not what it used to be

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15 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

Wang Ming was a senior leader of the early Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the mastermind of the famous 28 Bolsheviks group. He was a major political rival of Mao Zedong during the 1930s, opposing what he saw as Mao's nationalist deviation from the Comintern and orthodox Marxist-Leninist lines.

So basically a political rival of Mao, more loyal to soviet Union. 

Ah alright

[Emir of Granada 822]

- Latvia or Finland, no problem, just take in consideration Anastasia Romanov proposal.

-Well you can search the wars I mentionned in google:

-The Winter war (1939-1940) is very famous it was a war between Finland and SU, Soviet Union was originally planning to annex Finland as a new SSR but it barely managed to get some territorial concessions.

-Finland wanted to retake its land back, and even get Karelia so when Operation Barbarossa( well you know Germany invading USSR) Finland declared war on SU whithout joining Axis but when things go wrong they switched side, so in retaliation Germany invaded Finland from Norway until The Soviets pushed them back even getting land In Norway.

-Also Stalin despised Soviet Union idea and wanted a more centralised Russian Socialist Soviet Republic removing others SSRs, so that might be a good event to add

- 1815 Civs make no problem , but you should supress 1440 scenario with all its civs because it cause you seeing something like Odrysia, Theodorus, Occitania.... pop out in Germany conquered lands

- When I talked about democracy path in SU, not SU transforming into democracy but DEMOCRACY WITHIN THE PARTY .

-Danzig focus tree: betraying poland, unifying with Germany declaring independence, growing NZ influence ( that historical), declare war on germany, The New prussia.....

- Also modify the map so I see Danzig instead of Gdansk Konisberg instead of Kaliningrad, Leningrad not Saint Petersbourg; Stalingrad not Volgograd 

- What about the border fix of Ecuador?

- The hypothetical invasion of Sweden by germany would be a nice add

[Emir of Granada 822]

Winter war

Operation Torch (8 November 1942 – 16 November 1942) was an Allied invasion of French North Africa during the Second World War. Torch was a compromise operation that met the British objective of securing victory in North Africa

D-Day you know invasion of France

Also you should add Free France as a different Civ

they started in.Africa and then attacked Vichy loyalists in Africa.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Emir of Granada

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36 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

- Latvia or Finland, no problem, just take in consideration Anastasia Romanov proposal.

-Well you can search the wars I mentionned in google:

-The Winter war (1939-1940) is very famous it was a war between Finland and SU, Soviet Union was originally planning to annex Finland as a new SSR but it barely managed to get some territorial concessions.

-Finland wanted to retake its land back, and even get Karelia so when Operation Barbarossa( well you know Germany invading USSR) Finland declared war on SU whithout joining Axis but when things go wrong they switched side, so in retaliation Germany invaded Finland from Norway until The Soviets pushed them back even getting land In Norway.

-Also Stalin despised Soviet Union idea and wanted a more centralised Russian Socialist Soviet Republic removing others SSRs, so that might be a good event to add

- 1815 Civs make no problem , but you should supress 1440 scenario with all its civs because it cause you seeing something like Odrysia, Theodorus, Occitania.... pop out in Germany conquered lands

- When I talked about democracy path in SU, not SU transforming into democracy but DEMOCRACY WITHIN THE PARTY .

-Danzig focus tree: betraying poland, unifying with Germany declaring independence, growing NZ influence ( that historical), declare war on germany, The New prussia.....

- Also modify the map so I see Danzig instead of Gdansk Konisberg instead of Kaliningrad, Leningrad not Saint Petersbourg; Stalingrad not Volgograd 

- What about the border fix of Ecuador?

- The hypothetical invasion of Sweden by germany would be a nice add

I literally expand my knowledge with your suggestions.... You are certainly a man with a lot of ideas

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_operations_in_the_West_European_Theater_during_World_War_II_by_year

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_operations_on_the_Eastern_Front_of_World_War_II

Edited June 30, 2023 by Kerguelen Mapping

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6 hours ago, Wooodex said:

Ah alright

Also Add The Oster Conspiracy 

[Emir of Granada 822]

The Oster Conspiracy of 1938 was a proposed plan to overthrow German Führer Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime if Germany went to war with Czechoslovakia over the Sudetenland. It was led by Generalmajor Hans Oster, deputy head of the Abwehr, and other high-ranking conservatives within the Wehrmacht who opposed the regime for behavior that was threatening to bring Germany into a war that they believed it was not ready to fight Oster played a crucial role in a plan, never executed, to capture or kill Hitler. He was involved in an actual failed attempt against Hitler in 1943, but was arrested and executed for his part in helping Jews escape to Switzerland.1 Oster was eventually arrested by the Gestapo and hanged in the cruelest way possible at Flossenburg concentration camp just days before Hitler committed suicide in his bunker. Oster undoubtedly merits a place in the pantheon of heroes of the German resistance.

Well as you see here, the Allies may choose to defend Czechoslakia refuding Any type of Munich agreement. So If WW2 was caused by invasion of Czechoslovakia, the chance of a coup against Hitler became higher.

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40 minutes ago, Emir of Granada said:

The Oster Conspiracy of 1938 was a proposed plan to overthrow German Führer Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime if Germany went to war with Czechoslovakia over the Sudetenland. It was led by Generalmajor Hans Oster, deputy head of the Abwehr, and other high-ranking conservatives within the Wehrmacht who opposed the regime for behavior that was threatening to bring Germany into a war that they believed it was not ready to fight Oster played a crucial role in a plan, never executed, to capture or kill Hitler. He was involved in an actual failed attempt against Hitler in 1943, but was arrested and executed for his part in helping Jews escape to Switzerland.1 Oster was eventually arrested by the Gestapo and hanged in the cruelest way possible at Flossenburg concentration camp just days before Hitler committed suicide in his bunker. Oster undoubtedly merits a place in the pantheon of heroes of the German resistance.

Well as you see here, the Allies may choose to defend Czechoslakia refuding Any type of Munich agreement. So If WW2 was caused by invasion of Czechoslovakia, the chance of a coup against Hitler became higher.

I see, alright bet

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19 hours ago, Emir of Granada said:

Winter war

Operation Torch (8 November 1942 – 16 November 1942) was an Allied invasion of French North Africa during the Second World War. Torch was a compromise operation that met the British objective of securing victory in North Africa

D-Day you know invasion of France

Also you should add Free France as a different Civ

they started in.Africa and then attacked Vichy loyalists in Africa.

Free France would require me to change a lot of events, so France will stay as france