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The classifications of governmental types appear to be oddly specific, lacking nuanced alignment with the diverse spectrum of ideological frameworks. Other than that, I greatly appreciate this concept!

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I think it's better if ideologies are sorted in groups :

Republic group :

  • Republic
  • Presidential republic
  • Merchant republic
  • Parliamentary republic
  • Federal republic
  • Socialist republic
  • federal republic

Autocracy :

  • Republic
  • Presidential republic
  • Merchant republic
  • federal republic

Monarchy :

  • Absolute monarchy
  • Constitutional monarchy
  • Imperial monarchy (colonial empire)

Democratic group :

  • Republic
  • Democracy
  • Socialist republic
  • Social democracy
  • Federal republic

Authoritarian-Totalitarian group :

  • Absolute monarchy
  • Communism
  • Fascism
  • Despotism
  • Oligarchy
  • Totalitarian theocratic state

Nationalist group :

  • Nationalism
  • Fascism
  • Nazism
  • Irredentism

Non aligned group :

  • Theocracy
  • Horde
  • City-state
  • Tribal
  • Provisional government

 

A ideology could be in 2 groups.

 

Edited by Wayne23lololh

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23 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Я думаю, что лучше, если идеологии будут рассортированы по группам :

Республиканская группа :

  • Республика
  • Президентская республика
  • Торговая республика
  • Парламентская  республика
  • Федеральная Республика
  • Социалистическая республика
  • Федеральная Республика

Автократия :

  • Республика
  • Президентская республика
  • Торговая республика
  • Федеральная Республика

Монархия :

  • Абсолютная монархия
  • Конституционная монархия
  • Имперская монархия (колониальная империя)

Демократическая группа :

  • Республика
  • Демократия
  • Социалистическая республика
  • Социал-демократия
  • Федеральная Республика

Авторитарно-тоталитарная группа :

  • Абсолютная монархия
  • Коммунизм
  • Фашизм
  • Деспотизм
  • Олигархия
  • Тоталитарное теократическое государство

Националистическая группа :

  • Национализм
  • Фашизм
  • нацизм
  • Ирредентизм

Неприсоединившаяся группа :

  • Теократия
  • Орда
  • Город-государство
  • Племенной
  • Временное правительство

 

Идеология может быть разделена на 2 группы.

 

A good question here is how to group them.

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52 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

I think it's better if ideologies are sorted in groups :

Republic group :

  • Republic
  • Presidential republic
  • Merchant republic
  • Parliamentary republic
  • Federal republic
  • Socialist republic
  • federal republic

Autocracy :

  • Republic
  • Presidential republic
  • Merchant republic
  • federal republic

Monarchy :

  • Absolute monarchy
  • Constitutional monarchy
  • Imperial monarchy (colonial empire)

Democratic group :

  • Republic
  • Democracy
  • Socialist republic
  • Social democracy
  • Federal republic

Authoritarian-Totalitarian group :

  • Absolute monarchy
  • Communism
  • Fascism
  • Despotism
  • Oligarchy
  • Totalitarian theocratic state

Nationalist group :

  • Nationalism
  • Fascism
  • Nazism
  • Irredentism

Non aligned group :

  • Theocracy
  • Horde
  • City-state
  • Tribal
  • Provisional government

 

A ideology could be in 2 groups.

 

I hope most of them make it into the game

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Communism at its core, embodies an anarchic essence, not authoritarian. It is important to acknowledge the divergence within the broader spectrum. Marxism-Leninism and Stalinism, in contrast, manifest as inherently authoritarian ideologies, and could be included as separate sub-ideologies.

The proposed method of categorization is better than the previous one, yet it echoes the same issues  that of previous frameworks. The defined groups pose a significant challenge to group ideologies. Ideologies such as Theocracy, are considered authoritarian ideology at its core, and so can be fit into the authoritarian category.

Personally, a division into 4 ideological spectrum consisting of Left-Auth / Right-Auth - Left-Lib / Right-Lib will make more sense.

Edited by qxz

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12 minutes ago, qxz said:

Communism at its core, embodies an anarchic essence, not authoritarian. It is important to acknowledge the divergence within the broader spectrum. Marxism-Leninism and Stalinism, in contrast, manifest as inherently authoritarian ideologies, and could be included as separate sub-ideologies.

The proposed method of categorization is better than the previous one, yet it echoes the same issues  that of previous frameworks. The defined groups pose a significant challenge to group ideologies. Ideologies such as Theocracy, are considered authoritarian ideology at its core, and so can be fit into the authoritarian category.

Personally, a division into 4 ideological spectrum consisting of Left-Auth / Right-Auth - Left-Lib / Right-Lib will make more sense.

Thank you for the advice. We are here to progress together and help Lukas with the game. I will try this.

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Finally !

 

Left-Auth :

  • Socialism
  • Communism
  • Distributism
  • Marxist Leninism
  • Leninism
  • Maoism
  • Titoism
  • Nationalism
  • Religious democracy
  • Labourism
  • Republicanism

 

Right-Auth :

  • Fascism
  • Aristocracy
  • Elective
  • Constitutional monarchy
  • Feudalism
  • Conservatism
  • National Liberalism
  • National capitalism
  • Imperialism
  • Nazism
  • Theocracy (all religions)
  • Right populism
  • Zionism
  • State Liberalism
  • Pan Arabism

 

Left-Lib :

  • Conservatism
  • Social democracy
  • Marxism
  • Democratic socialism
  • Progressive
  • Liberal socialism
  • Syndicalism
  • Market Socialism
  • Anarcho-communism
  • Council communism
  • Utopian socialism

 

Right-Lib :

  • Liberalism
  • Confederalism
  • Capitalism
  • Libertarianism
  • Transhumanism (sucks I know)
  • Minarchism

Left :

  • Anti-Capitalism
  • Left Communism
  • Communialism
  • Distributism
  • Progressivism

Right :

  • National Liberalism
  • General Capitalism
  • Anti-Communism

Authoritarian :

  • Fascism
  • Vichy Fascism
  • General Authoritarianism

 

Libertarian : 

  • Social Libertarianism
  • Anti-Authoritarianism
  • Georgism
  • True Anarchism

 

I could delete some. I think I mixed ideologies and government.

 

 

Edited by Wayne23lololh

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1 minute ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Finally !

 

Left-Auth :

  • Socialism
  • Communism
  • Distributism
  • Marxist Leninism
  • Maoism
  • Monarcho-communism
  • Natinalism
  • Labourism
  • Republicanism

 

Right-Auth :

  • Fascism
  • Aristocracy
  • Constitutional monarchy
  • Feudalism
  • Conservatism
  • National Liberalism
  • Nazism
  • Theocracy (all religions)
  • Right populism
  • Zionism
  • State Liberalism
  • Pan Arabism

 

Left-Lib :

  • Conservatism
  • Social democracy
  • Marxism
  • Democratic socialism
  • Progressive
  • Liberal socialism

 

Right-Lib :

  • Liberalism
  • Confederalism
  • Capitalism
  • Libertarianism
  •  

Left :

  • Anti-Capitalism
  • Left Communism
  • Communialism
  • Distributism
  • Progressivism

Right :

  • National Liberalism
  • General Capitalism
  • Anti-Communism

Authoritarian :

  • Fascism
  • Vichy Fascism
  • General Authoritarianism

 

Libertarian : 

  • Social Libertarianism
  • Anti-Authoritarianism
  • True Anarchism

 

I could delete some. I think I mixed ideologies and government.

 

 

Awesome!

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Government :

Democratic :

  • Direct Democracy
  • Census democracy
  • Herrenvolk democracy
  • Social democracy
  • Representative Democracy (Republic Government, Parliamentary Government)
  • Constitutional monarchy

Non democratic :

  • Authoritarian
  • Totalitarian
  • Oligarchy
  • Theocracy
  • Dictatorship
  • Absolute monarchy

Others :

  • Communist
  • Colonialist
  • Aristocratic

 

Optional : Confederation, Unitary, Federation.

 

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18 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Government :

Democratic :

  • Direct Democracy
  • Census democracy
  • Herrenvolk democracy
  • Social democracy
  • Representative Democracy (Republic Government, Parliamentary Government)
  • Constitutional monarchy

Non democratic :

  • Authoritarian
  • Totalitarian
  • Oligarchy
  • Theocracy
  • Dictatorship
  • Absolute monarchy

Others :

  • Communist
  • Colonialist
  • Aristocratic

 

Optional : Confederation, Unitary, Federation.

 

Yeah I believe this division is good!

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2 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Finalmente !

 

Autenticação Esquerda :

  • Socialismo
  • O comunismo
  • Distributismo
  • Leninismo Marxista
  • Maoísmo
  • Monarco-comunismo
  • Nacionalismo
  • Trabalhismo
  • Republicanismo

 

Autenticação Direita :

  • Fascismo
  • Aristocracia
  • Monarquia constitucional
  • Feudalismo
  • Conservadorismo
  • Nacional Liberalismo
  • nazismo
  • Teocracia (todas as religiões)
  • Populismo de direita
  • sionismo
  • Liberalismo de Estado
  • Pan-arabismo

 

Esquerda-Lib :

  • Conservadorismo
  • Democracia social
  • marxismo
  • Socialismo democrático
  • Progressivo
  • Socialismo liberal

 

Direita-Lib :

  • Liberalismo
  • Confederalismo
  • Capitalismo
  • Libertarianismo

Esquerda :

  • Anticapitalismo
  • Comunismo de Esquerda
  • Comunialismo
  • Distributismo
  • Progressivismo

Certo :

  • Nacional Liberalismo
  • Capitalismo Geral
  • Anticomunismo

Autoritário :

  • Fascismo
  • Fascismo de Vichy
  • Autoritarismo Geral

 

Libertário : 

  • Libertarianismo Social
  • Antiautoritarismo
  • Verdadeiro Anarquismo

 

Eu poderia deletar alguns. Acho que misturei ideologias e governo.

 

 

Where is nationalism? You could create several strands, from reactionary nationalism to national unionism

 

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44 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

I have already put nationalism in left auth. I will add several strands too.

It would be great if we could bring different ideologies together. This, in addition to giving some funny options, would make aoh3 have mechanics that would possibly be innovative (I don't know if this has ever happened in any other strategy game)

 

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I suggest this system of 5 western, emerging/eastern, salafism or can be renames to islamismnwhere all islamic ideologies go under include shiite & moderate ones, aswell as neutral & nationalism outlook with the idoeliges/parties inside,

 

I also would like to see the poltical alignment triangle if possible too maybe in this case it can be change to a star or a rectangle/line in some scenarios like cold War where there is only 2 main dominant ideologies left/right & it shows ur nation flag on the bar/line depending  on which ideology u lean closer to, or in the modern day scenario if we go based on these 5 then it should be a political star maybe in a ww1 scnerio it would be a line/rectengle/bar where it shows whether ur in the middle or ideology closer to allies or central powers maybe a triangle in ww2 for axis, allies & commintern to show which alliance ideology (communism, democracy or fascism your country leans more to)

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