Łukasz, in your game the main goal is still to take over the whole world?

[Денис Живков 753]

You see, your games don’t have this randomness. Almost all games will be practically the same and there is no alternative end to them. This idea that the game ends only when you capture the whole world was also in the previous parts. those. The game has only one ending.
But I would like something else.

• For example, an alternative ending with the Earth destroyed by nuclear bombs.
• Or not, on the contrary, the ending is that the whole world is in peace and harmony.
• Or I end with the invasion of synthetics from outer space.
• Or the ending that all people have gone crazy and no longer obey the states (anarchic)
• Or that one scientist invented ---- that make it possible to turn a person into a subordinate animal (yes, I was describing myself, but no, this is just a zombie apocalypse scenario), which can follow its leader and the end of this horde will be when the leader is killed.

Yes, the last two can be modded, but I would like the game not to be boring. So that the game would at least have the opportunity for the population who are against the current regime to rebel against the ruler. But this is probably the next idea.

 

 

@murai @AmericanLiberia@YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan @ALDI @mattxjpg @china peple @Das Moss Man@Dipto479, @Lim10, @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, @SerenDippTheGreat, @bun_dha4, @Wooodex,  @Iceman, @Comrade_Parrot, @桂圆甜不甜, @PiePants, @sanitar4ick,@Gustav Heinrich @Nisnac@Avinetta @Evis7 @AleksGame @Nay_13

@IRn@bulbanoof @RMaRe@IKayzerI @thecarvalhogamer@ecl @Kiwi@aa30388,@wbladew5,@qxz,@Wayne23lololh, @Anyone,@Nowarhia,   @Outlawexperience, @GalacticCakes,   @Matvey,  @bizacjum @paul2kdj @BALONA30,   @Barbaris,  @Rodak Polak, @wafflestein8, @Yahya   @wbladew5,  @Mihael1, @Warnnexx,  @Free City of Łódź What answer would you give to my question ?

 

@Łukasz Jakowski

[Uruguargentina 18]

I think the nuclear war scenario could be interesting, because, you could rebuild society and countires. You maybe will have to fight mutants or this like that.

[sanitar4ick 23]

5 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

You see, your games don’t have this randomness. Almost all games will be practically the same and there is no alternative end to them. This idea that the game ends only when you capture the whole world was also in the previous parts. those. The game has only one ending.
But I would like something else.

• For example, an alternative ending with the Earth destroyed by nuclear bombs.
• Or not, on the contrary, the ending is that the whole world is in peace and harmony.
• Or I end with the invasion of synthetics from outer space.
• Or the ending that all people have gone crazy and no longer obey the states (anarchic)
• Or that one scientist invented ---- that make it possible to turn a person into a subordinate animal (yes, I was describing myself, but no, this is just a zombie apocalypse scenario), which can follow its leader and the end of this horde will be when the leader is killed.

Yes, the last two can be modded, but I would like the game not to be boring. So that the game would at least have the opportunity for the population who are against the current regime to rebel against the ruler. But this is probably the next idea.

 

In addition to the options you suggested, I would add "ultra modes". At the start of the game, you can turn on events that will affect the ending of the game.

And so, I'll start in order.

• Pandemic. We know that the game will add mechanics for researching various technologies. You can add medical research, and if countries do not research medicine to a level acceptable for survival, the epidemic will destroy their population and the game will end for them. And those who have good enough technology to survive it will be able to fight in the royal battle.
• Alien invasion. Like you said earlier, it would be cool to add aliens to the game. For example, playing in the era of the future (2100+), countries that will conduct space research (I don’t know if this will be in the game, but in the real world we have many proposals, for example, for the extraction of Helium-3 in space, and other minerals, I would request these resources for research and creation of superweapons) will be able to catch an alien signal, make contact with alien creatures, and by extracting resources in space spoil relations with the aliens, when they reach their peak - an event with an alien invasion will begin, and countries will be given the opportunity to fight for survival and win, or disappear and capitulate.
• Nuclear war. As a fan of Hearts of Iron 4, I really love the TNO mod, and it implements a very interesting “Great Judgment” mechanic. This is a nuclear war between major powers. But the complete destruction of the planet can be avoided if the enemy state quickly falls. This will also be a kind of challenge, to manage to capture the enemy before the use of nuclear weapons. (TNO is a mod where the Axis forces won the Second World War, they did a lot in the world, I highly recommend playing it, interesting plot!)
• Post-apocalypse. I hope many of you know about the Chernobyl accident, the game Stalker is very popular in the russian-ukrainian etc.  gaming segment (by the way, Stalker 2 is coming out in September), so I propose an option with a post-apocalypse, where the main task will be to bring your group (you can select it in the event after nuclear war, I described my version above). This can be combined with the Old World Blues mod, well known among Hearts of Iron 4 players. This can be used as an additional game plot after a nuclear war. Add an achievement in incentive for victory in the post-apocalypse, because to get it you will need to overcome a really difficult path, and not capture 100 provinces as in Age of History 2.
• The Flood. If countries do not take care of the environment, glaciers will gradually melt and sea levels will rise. Countries like the Netherlands, a huge part of whose territory is below sea level, will have to build dams, and this will apply to all coastal cities, otherwise they will be flooded, that is, the province will become a sea, and it will no longer be possible to colonize or use it in any way. for other purposes other than the transfer of troops.

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Edited July 2, 2024 by sanitar4ick
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[Reza Shah 426]

We could win by forming all the formable nations. For Example:

Rome -) Kingdom Of Rome -) Kingdom Of Italy -) European Union (something like this)

And after forming the European union the game will end.

[qxz 622]

48 minutes ago, Денис Живков said:

what?

[Siamese 96]

i wasnt tagged :(

[Денис Живков 753]

23 hours ago, sanitar4ick said:

Alien invasion. Like you said earlier, it would be cool to add aliens to the game. For example, playing in the era of the future (2100+), countries that will conduct space research (I don’t know if this will be in the game, but in the real world we have many proposals, for example, for the extraction of Helium-3 in space, and other minerals, I would request these resources for research and creation of superweapons) will be able to catch an alien signal, make contact with alien creatures, and by extracting resources in space spoil relations with the aliens, when they reach their peak - an event with an alien invasion will begin, and countries will be given the opportunity to fight for survival and win, or disappear and capitulate.

Dude, the idea of a pandemic is just a test. I respect you.

So, I'll expand on the idea of a worldwide alien invasion.

Imagine that there is the latest technology - it is the colonization of other planets (behind the game world, although you can arrange battles on other planets). And there is a risk of encountering aliens. Depending on the contacts of your and other civilizations that went into space (the actions of others will depend on your actions), there will be a different outcome.

 

Possible consumption of endings

1. You choose enmity. Other countries are following your example. After a while, aliens invade your planet in the territory of Spain (for example) (I chose the territory of Spain by rofl, I decided to start the fight for Iberia anew)

The aliens do not have a plague on your planet, but any territory that the aliens will ascend to with the goals of war will immediately repaint in their color and acquire their religion and culture.

And then if you win, you will be able to take the post of galactic emperor and ruler of this empire.

And then if you lose against the aliens, there will be an interesting ending as they burn out the whole earth and fly away from it and leave a couple of patches of untouched land to survive in this desert world, where there is a severe famine in every burned province.

and in case of defeat, the remaining civilizations will become tribes and for a long time they will look for living patches of land to take away all the people and migrate with the total mass.

 

2. The process of friendly contact. In this case, these two civilizations come to galactic friendship and interstellar trade.

There is a new ending with a cutscene of friendliness and achievement in the user's profile.

 

3. The process of ignoring. The galactic ship flies a little, it can get bored if the 2 world power state shoots at the alien galactic ship and then 1 starts. the ending.

But this is if the second most powerful state in the world is on bad terms with yours.

If none of the states makes contact with aliens, they will slightly prevent you from building colonies on Mars. They fly from planet to planet, study, and then fence the sun with their galactic flag and fly away.

23 hours ago, sanitar4ick said:

The Flood. If countries do not take care of the environment, glaciers will gradually melt and sea levels will rise. Countries like the Netherlands, a huge part of whose territory is below sea level, will have to build dams, and this will apply to all coastal cities, otherwise they will be flooded, that is, the province will become a sea, and it will no longer be possible to colonize or use it in any way. for other purposes other than the transfer of troops.

 

I don’t understand a little under what conditions this can happen

[Денис Живков 753]

Just now, Денис Живков said:

 

@murai @AmericanLiberia@YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan @ALDI @mattxjpg @china peple @Das Moss Man@Dipto479, @Lim10, @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, @SerenDippTheGreat, @bun_dha4, @Wooodex,  @Iceman, @Comrade_Parrot, @桂圆甜不甜, @PiePants, @sanitar4ick,@Gustav Heinrich @Nisnac@Avinetta @Evis7 @AleksGame @Nay_13

@IRn@bulbanoof @RMaRe@IKayzerI @thecarvalhogamer@ecl @Kiwi@aa30388,@wbladew5,@qxz,@Wayne23lololh, @Anyone,@Nowarhia,   @Outlawexperience, @GalacticCakes,   @Matvey,  @bizacjum @paul2kdj @BALONA30,   @Barbaris,  @Rodak Polak, @wafflestein8, @Yahya   @wbladew5,  @Mihael1, @Warnnexx,  @Free City of Łódź What answer would you give to my question ?

 

@Łukasz Jakowski

I think Lukash's answer will be something like this: "And I think it will be known when it is ready"

[Денис Живков 753]

1 minute ago, Reza Shah said:

We could win by forming all the formable nations. For Example:

Rome -) Kingdom Of Rome -) Kingdom Of Italy -) European Union (something like this)

And after forming the European union the game will end.

Imagine if the game has a type of Terrestrial Empire (an empire formed only if all terrestrial provinces are captured) and there is some epic ending window in the game with powerful quotes and a powerful dictator's voice reading the text. And in the background, slides with earth and images of photos of kings with the same epic music will look with transitions.

[Dipto479 117]

cool idea but Waste of time

[qxz 622]

A system similar to Victoria 3 goals would be good

[Денис Живков 753]

12 minutes ago, qxz said:

A system similar to Victoria 3 goals would be good

what?

[Денис Живков 753]

20 minutes ago, qxz said:

Have you been running Victoria 3 all this time while not responding to the message?😅😆

Edited July 2, 2024 by Денис Живков
:)))

[qxz 622]

25 minutes ago, Денис Живков said:

Have you been running Victoria 3 all this time while not responding to the message?😅😆

No its a screenshot from one of the dev diary 😅

[paul2kdj 118]

I think that some like the anarchist ending or the peace ending would be cool, something like a nuclear scenario would be pretty boring cuz the prayer could simply build enough nukes to destroy the world and then declare war on everyone and nuke them. The alien invasion could be a great game mode and a good addition to the campaign 

[Das Moss Man 486]

23 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

You see, your games don’t have this randomness. Almost all games will be practically the same and there is no alternative end to them. This idea that the game ends only when you capture the whole world was also in the previous parts. those. The game has only one ending.
But I would like something else.

• For example, an alternative ending with the Earth destroyed by nuclear bombs.
• Or not, on the contrary, the ending is that the whole world is in peace and harmony.
• Or I end with the invasion of synthetics from outer space.
• Or the ending that all people have gone crazy and no longer obey the states (anarchic)
• Or that one scientist invented ---- that make it possible to turn a person into a subordinate animal (yes, I was describing myself, but no, this is just a zombie apocalypse scenario), which can follow its leader and the end of this horde will be when the leader is killed.

Yes, the last two can be modded, but I would like the game not to be boring. So that the game would at least have the opportunity for the population who are against the current regime to rebel against the ruler. But this is probably the next idea.

 

 

@murai @AmericanLiberia@YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan @ALDI @mattxjpg @china peple @Das Moss Man@Dipto479, @Lim10, @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, @SerenDippTheGreat, @bun_dha4, @Wooodex,  @Iceman, @Comrade_Parrot, @桂圆甜不甜, @PiePants, @sanitar4ick,@Gustav Heinrich @Nisnac@Avinetta @Evis7 @AleksGame @Nay_13

@IRn@bulbanoof @RMaRe@IKayzerI @thecarvalhogamer@ecl @Kiwi@aa30388,@wbladew5,@qxz,@Wayne23lololh, @Anyone,@Nowarhia,   @Outlawexperience, @GalacticCakes,   @Matvey,  @bizacjum @paul2kdj @BALONA30,   @Barbaris,  @Rodak Polak, @wafflestein8, @Yahya   @wbladew5,  @Mihael1, @Warnnexx,  @Free City of Łódź What answer would you give to my question ?

 

@Łukasz Jakowski

Why people tag spam?

[sanitar4ick 23]

17 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

I don’t understand a little under what conditions this can happen

Under conditions, if the whole world builds itself up with factories, then the CO2 level will increase, and when it reaches its peak, a flood event will begin.

[Pumped 43]

Great idea, maybe also a zombie invasion event?
What I like about this suggestion is that it's not distinct from normal events; what I mean is that all, or at least most, of these modes can be created with the events editor on a scenario (assuming AoH3's events are more customizable/powerful in causal and outcome conditions), so it can realistically be implemented in the game.

I think the best way this can be done programmably is to allow users to construct their own 'modes' using abstract events, that is, instead of a user going to a specific scenario and editing  the country "Spain" to get an event on the specific date "January 1st, 1447" (like it is now), the new game editor can allow you to make a 'mode' and edit it to give the abstract "players nation" (whichever nation the player selected to play) an event that fires "3 years 2 days (or whatever)" from the starting scenario's date. That way you can get shareable 'modes' that can be used and played through essentially any scenario with full compatibility, basically events to the game itself and not just specifically in one scenario, like civil wars, elections, etc.

As for editing a country's territory, which changes from scenario to scenario, there can just be more abstracts. Instead of selecting exactly 40 of Spain's 100 provinces in the editor to be transferred to zombies territory after an event outcome, using my previous idea as an example, you can instead have the event outcome be to transfer the territory of 40% of the player country's provinces. There can be an option for only having the provinces selected be neighboring:


I've worked with AoH2's code and know there's some functions for getting neighboring provinces to another province via programming, so this can be done.
Also, in AoH3 the map is extremely large, so I predict there will be very little large-scale modifications to provinces/the entire map and all that within the game; therefore, the map itself can still be used to select provinces to transfer/be altered as the result of an event outcome, it doesn't have to remain abstract (like random provinces). Back to my example you can just pre-define an event firing two years after the start date to create a zombie country in a selected few provinces in Spain, and this should work fine across scenarios so long as they use the same map. (hope that makes sense)

This would allow much more customizability and create a whole new aspect of mods that create different objectives within the game, like you said!

 

Edited July 4, 2024 by Pumped

[Perkaza R. Dani 37]

not tagged 🥲

[ALDI 19]

Agreed 

[ecl 22]

Good idea! Varieties of endings will make the game interesting!

[Anom 14]

You're into something, really its something