A more advanced puppet government system

[Sniperuntil 7]

The system of vassal in aoh2 is bad reasons:

-vassal won't join master's alliance/faction

-vassal will oftenly rebel against its master

(My reasons may be bad)

Heres the things aoh3 should add:

-vassal/puppet will give its master resources

-vassal/puppet will join master's alliance/faction automatically

Vassals also need "levels" (or something) example:

- Dominion

-colony

-provisional government

-puppet

-Integrated Puppet

Or more..

Vassals/puppets can be independent by joining wars, bigger army than master and more

vassals/puppets can be annexed by master

(After countries getting puppeted they have their own unique flags and names)

(Btw puppet/vassal will have the same ideology with master)

(Vassal can gain independence by increasing its autonomy, if the master don't let them gain their independence there will be a war)

Edited April 23 by Sniperuntil

[Денис Живков 422]

12 hours ago, Sniperuntil said:

-vassal will oftenly rebel against its master

That's how it should be. The vassal enters into hostile associations against the overlord and, together with other vassals, is separated (gains independence (or whatever he fought for)) upon victory.

[Sniperuntil 7]

11 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

That's how it should be. The vassal enters into hostile associations against the overlord and, together with other vassals, is separated (gains independence (or whatever he fought for)) upon victory

Sometimes The vassal are too weak to rebel against its overlord makes the entire thing just like an ant vs human

Edited April 16 by Sniperuntil

[Outlawexperience 208]

On 4/15/2024 at 3:46 AM, Sniperuntil said:

The system of vassal in aoh2 is bad reasons:

-vassal won't join master's alliance/faction

-vassal will oftenly rebel against its master

(My reasons may be bad)

Heres the things aoh3 should add:

-vassal/puppet will give its master resources

-vassal/puppet will join master's alliance/faction automatically

Vassals also need "levels" (or something) example:

- Dominion

-colony

-provisional government

-puppet

-Integrated Puppet

Or more..

Vassals/puppets can be independent by joining wars, bigger army than master and more

vassals/puppets can be annexed by master

(After countries getting puppeted they have their own unique flags and names)

(Btw puppet/vassal will have the same ideology with master)

Yes Vassal should automatically join lord's alliance

[Денис Живков 422]

13 hours ago, Sniperuntil said:

Sometimes The vassal are too weak to rebel against its overlord makes the entire thing just like an ant vs human

The fact is that there are many vassals, they even fight among themselves, but they are obliged to pay a certain amount of money from their sum every month. And yes, the vassal may not be the only one who rebels, because he is not the only one who may be dissatisfied with his ruler, and often vassals join factions because they were asked

[thecarvalhogamer 24]

20 hours ago, Sniperuntil said:

6 hours ago, Денис Живков said:

The fact is that there are many vassals, they even fight among themselves, but they are obliged to pay a certain amount of money from their sum every month. And yes, the vassal may not be the only one who rebels, because he is not the only one who may be dissatisfied with his ruler, and often vassals join factions because they were asked

 

I think this should be measured with the power of your nation, the stronger your nation, the less likely your vassal is to rebel.

Edited April 17 by thecarvalhogamer

[Денис Живков 422]

15 hours ago, thecarvalhogamer said:

I think this should be measured with the power of your nation, the stronger your nation, the less likely your vassal is to rebel.

No, in any case, if the overlord wants him to have more power than the vassals, then the vassals may be unhappy with this.
In addition, many uprisings occur to separate a province with a culture different from the culture of the state. Only at later stages (in modern times and after) can there be several cultures legalized at once in the state.

[thecarvalhogamer 24]

16 minutes ago, Денис Живков said:

No, in any case, if the overlord wants him to have more power than the vassals, then the vassals may be unhappy with this.
In addition, many uprisings occur to separate a province with a culture different from the culture of the state. Only at later stages (in modern times and after) can there be several cultures legalized at once in the state.

But if there were many revolts the game would be boring, don't you think? There must be a balance to this

[Денис Живков 422]

1 minute ago, thecarvalhogamer said:

But if there were many revolts the game would be boring, don't you think? There must be a balance to this

Yes, that's the point. Such games teach conservatism and that it is better not to change anything and everything will be as it is, so that dissatisfied people will rebel again.

[haibao 0]

On 2024/4/15 at AM10点46分, Sniperuntil said:

aoh2中的封臣系统不好的原因：

-封臣不会加入大师的联盟/派系

-封臣经常会反抗其主人

（我的理由可能不好）

以下是 aoh3 应该添加的内容：

-vassal/puppet将给予其主资源

-附庸/傀儡将自动加入主人的联盟/派系

封臣还需要“级别”（或其他东西）例如：

- 统治

-殖民地

- 临时政府

-木偶

-综合傀儡

或者更多..

封臣/傀儡可以通过参加战争而独立，比主人更大的军队等等

封臣/傀儡可以被主人吞并

（国家被傀儡后，他们就有了自己独特的旗帜和名字）

（顺便说一句，傀儡/附庸将与主人有相同的意识形态）

I think we can let the suzerain define the ideology of the vassal state.

[Денис Живков 422]

10 hours ago, haibao said:

Я думаю, мы можем позволить сюзерену определять идеологию вассального государства.

for what?