nation Add A Culture or Nationality Mechanic

[Naval 212]

2 minutes ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

plus maybe he could slowly perma assign cultures to countries slowly using scenarios, an example would be: 

assigning culture to modern civs then locking that as their culture

assigning culture to 1440 civs then locking that as their culture

 

just like religions, not all civs will have assigned culture, and culture can be assigned by the player

based.

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

I dont know if it is complicated or not, but adding cultures for provinces, and countries would automatically assign with the most present culture in the capital. 

Germany's group is German cause Berlin is a German city.

 

[qxz 622]

1 hour ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

That's pretty cool, but who will assign this to all the civilizations in the game? (2467 Civilizations, Files)

I agree, Wayne did perhaps over do it which is not bad but will take ages to implement. So what about the culture mechanic being more simpler like religion?

Edited May 20, 2024 by qxz

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

9 minutes ago, qxz said:

I agree, Wayne did perhaps over do it which is not bad but will take ages to implement. So what about the culture mechanic being more simpler like religion?

How do you find my name 😰

Seriously, I think I you're right, maybe I did too much. Do you think that what I proposed above is hard, I need your thought. 

Edited May 20, 2024 by Wayne23lololh

[qxz 622]

17 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

How do you find my name 😰

Seriously, I think I you're right, maybe I did too much. Do you think that what I proposed above is hard, I need your thought. 

Haha!

Yeah I do believe it is somewhat hard to implement a system similar to yours (which is similar to CK3) if it includes calculations that come with it. I mostly believe it is just time consuming to do, cultures could either be grouped into Slavic/Germanic/Celtic/... or into something more complex like unique cultures to each civilizations. Second method still is time consuming, personally I would prefer the first method.

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

2 minutes ago, qxz said:

Haha!

Yeah I do believe it is somewhat hard to implement a system similar to yours (which is similar to CK3) if it includes calculations that come with it. I mostly believe it is just time consuming to do, cultures could either be grouped into Slavic/Germanic/Celtic/... or into something more complex like unique cultures to each civilizations. Second method still is time consuming, personally I would prefer the first method.

Thank you !

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2 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

That's pretty cool, but wo will assign this to all the civilizations in the game? (2467 Civilizations, Files)

Ai

[ColonelDinos 30]

5 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

That's pretty cool, but who will assign this to all the civilizations in the game? (2467 Civilizations, Files)

Hello Lucasz, maybe you could, make the game completely user-customisable, just as you did with AoHII and realease only 2 scenarios, the modern world and 1440. And leave the rest to the community, (steam workshop) to make the rest of the scenarios and to assign all these cultures, we are just asking to make this available as a mechanic only, not to assign them all by yourself, give yourself a break! My point is, that its a waste of time to try to make all of these scenarios, when you could just ask for help, from the people whom all of them support you!

PS. In all honesty, the only scenarios that were used extensively (in AOHII) were the modern world, the 1440, and the scenario creator. So maybe its kinda unececary to do all of this work for almost nothing! 

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

7 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

That's pretty cool, but who will assign this to all the civilizations in the game? (2467 Civilizations, Files)

The idea is to set when we create a scenario cultures, and then select the majority in each countries in the scenario. It could decide which AI pictures should civilizations must have (not each cultures but groups like Germanic).

We can use a sort of the claimants feature for formable nations, select several countries at once with the same culture (select all Germans countries in 1444 for the same culture).

So cultures would intervened only when we create scenarios, when we need them, and there don't need to put to all 2467 civilizations with files.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Wayne23lololh

[YusufAliDE 246]

23 hours ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

yeah i guessed that was the reason

 

 

you don't have to assign all the cultures to the civs automatically, maybe cultures could be added in the scenario editor to the civilizations, this would fix your issue AND would appease the fanbase, plus maybe you could do that slowly with each update rollout until all of them are done (this would be very hard)

 

@Łukasz Jakowski thoughts? making the player assign the culture while making the scenario would solve the issue and nobody would complain since that adds way more versatility anyways

a very good solution (just a bit tiring for lukasz :P)

[OwnM3Z0 1,102]

2 hours ago, YusufAliDE said:

a very good solution (just a bit tiring for lukasz :P)

barely (im pretty sure) compared to his other options

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

If cultures are added, dynamic names should have effect by it.

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

Also, Democracies would be less likely to assimilate other cultures than Monarchies, and Fascism (plus National Socialism).

[OwnM3Z0 1,102]

8 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Also, Democracies would be less likely to assimilate other cultures than Monarchies, and Fascism (plus National Socialism).

that SUCKED and made zero sense, as egypt (republic) i needed to assimilate millions becasue the country before me was egypt (monarchy)

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

7 hours ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

that SUCKED and made zero sense, as egypt (republic) i needed to assimilate millions becasue the country before me was egypt (monarchy)

How that sucked ? Do you think that modern democracies would try to convert minority culture, and why a monarchic country that become democratic must assimilate their people, because when a monarchic country becomes democratic, it's often by their people. It's just the population happiness.

And I said less likely, that doesn't mean that democracy cant. AI would less likely to do it

Edited May 22, 2024 by Wayne23lololh

[OwnM3Z0 1,102]

3 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

How that sucked ? Do you think that modern democracies would try to convert minority culture, and why a monarchic country that become democratic must assimilate their people, because when a monarchic country becomes democratic, it's often by their people. It's just the population happiness.

And I said less likely, that doesn't mean that democracy cant. AI would less likely to do it

Treating an ideology change as an entirely different ethnic group when it's not the case is kinda weird

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

Agree, it's not like Egyptian people would want to become independent from Egypt, since it's the main culture

 

[桑榆不是鱼 174]

On 5/20/2024 at 9:22 PM, Łukasz Jakowski said:

That's pretty cool, but who will assign this to all the civilizations in the game? (2467 Civilizations, Files)

It's easy, you can have players and mod authors do this.
You just need to make it so the player can set them up.
If you don't set them, a nation is automatically generated with a more national name.
For example, if you set it then we get the mainstream population of the United Kingdom as English, but if you don't set it then we get United Kingdom people, just like in the current game.
If the player has not set it, then by default the population of all plots is the dominant culture population of the controller. If the player modifies these then this changes.
You just need to set the dominant culture of some of the nations in some of the scripts and let the mod authors refine more of the nations and detailed scripts themselves.

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[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

16 minutes ago, 桑榆不是鱼 said:

It's easy, you can have players and mod authors do this.
You just need to make it so the player can set them up.
If you don't set them, a nation is automatically generated with a more national name.
For example, if you set it then we get the mainstream population of the United Kingdom as English, but if you don't set it then we get United Kingdom people, just like in the current game.
If the player has not set it, then by default the population of all plots is the dominant culture population of the controller. If the player modifies these then this changes.
You just need to set the dominant culture of some of the nations in some of the scripts and let the mod authors refine more of the nations and detailed scripts themselves.

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For me it the BEST OPTION

Edited May 22, 2024 by Wayne23lololh

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

Lets not forget this topic !

(I research if I put more cultures, in Asia, like in Siberia)

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On 5/15/2024 at 5:51 PM, ColonelDinos said:

Ottoman Empire is part of the Turkic "Culture" or "Turkish Nation".

Nope, Ottoman empire had Arab-Persian culture. It became Turkish after the 1908 revolution. 

[RostislavMerte 110]

On 5/28/2024 at 4:30 PM, Wayne23lololh said:

Lets not forget this topic !

(I research if I put more cultures, in Asia, like in Siberia)

In Japan,there is Ainu (Ainu) And Ryukyu people (Ryukyu)

 

The mainland Japanese culture is called Yamatō (Yamato)

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

I will try to do PowerPoint diasporas, but I have my final middle school exam first

[Naval 212]

38 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

I will try to do PowerPoint diasporas, but I have my final middle school exam first

let's go boi

don't forget that you have your personal life beyond the AOH forum

I wish you to get the highest grade

[Wayne23lololh 1,645]

46 minutes ago, Naval said:

let's go boi

don't forget that you have your personal life beyond the AOH forum

I wish you to get the highest grade

Thank you for the support !

Edited June 28, 2024 by Wayne23lololh