Civil war concept

[samu_ 24]

I think it would be fun to have some sort of possibility for the ideology change to go wrong and starting a civil war with the areas with the lowest stability, you could also add a new mechanic:

Government approval! 

Depending of the decisions you make, it would either go up or down, if it went lower than 60% 3 things would happen:

1:  you would lose money and army discipline due to corruption

2 a region would break off

3: a civil war would break off

Maybe your leader would be assassinated and a junta or the second man in charge would take charge, I think it would add a challenge and would force players to play their cards right, I also think that some historical civil wars should have a small mechanic to either stop it or make it happen early, like the Stalin paranoia mechanic in hoi4, a small mechanic that can still make a big difference!

Thanks for reading!

(I forgot to mention but there is a mod that does this: new Era mod)

[Aayush 10]

Yesss

[GöteborgskaKommunisten 0]

I agree

[Łukasz Jakowski 5,521]

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

[Kiwi 60]

33 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

O que muda  a aprovação do governo?

Quais são as decisões que o jogador deve tomar?

 

Por enquanto há apenas uma lista de resultados de alta desaprovação governamental

believe that economic development and the happiness of the population could lead to disapproval of the government’s actions and decisions. Additionally, if a player were to transition swiftly from communism to National Socialism, it could potentially trigger a civil war. Similarly, changing the religion of a civilization—say, from a predominantly Catholic population to an Islamic one—could also ignite a civil conflict due to the distinct religious beliefs. 🌟🗺️

[Hamza_23 1]

Will there be age of history 3 for iOS?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

Goverment approval will depends on:

1. Random events, in which citizens or peasants making some crime, that make the goverment in people eyes more uneffective. Event can struct like this:

in city_name profession_name do some crime, we need to punish them!

profession_name can be: workers, peasant, citizens, etc.

2.  Country's Decisions, that will encrease the goverment approval. For monarchy it can be named as "king of the people" and encreasing approval by ten. Cost of this might depends on country's province count: every 15 provinces will encrease cost of decision in x1.2.

What do goverment approval:

If country approval is lower than 50. There is a risk, that country leader can be assassinated.

If approval is 0. Civil war will breaks out.

By the way I have suggestion, that if your opponent have no army, you will instantly gain a 100 victory points and can to conquare them.

Civil war participants will divide like this:

Old goverment 45% of army and territories

New one: 55% of army and territories.

If in country there is a not native population, them will took the territories and be neutral in civil war.

Edited April 3 by Alexey Navalny

[AleksGame 31]

9 minutes ago, Alexey Navalny said:

Goverment approval will depends on:

1. Random events, in which citizens or peasants making some crime, that make the goverment in people eyes, more uneffective. Event can struct like this:

in city_name profession_name do some crime, we need to punish them!

profession_name can be: workers, peasant, citizens, etc.

2.  Country's Decisions, that will encrease the goverment approval. For monarchy it can be named as "king of the people" and encreasing approval by ten. Cost of this might depends on country's province count: every 15 provinces will encrease cost of decision in x1.2.

What do goverment approval:

If country approval is lower than 50. There is a risk, that country leader can be assassinated.

If approval is 0. Civil war will breaks out.

By the way I have suggestion, that if your opponent have no army, you will instantly gain a 100 victory points and can to conquare them.

Civil war participants will divide like this:

Old goverment 45% of army and territories

New one: 55% of army and territories.

If in country there is a not native population, them will gave the territories and be neutral in civil war.

Good idea, but what crimes will there be that will make the government more ineffective in the eyes of the people? And who will get the territories of the non-native population?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, AleksGame said:

Good idea, but what crimes will there be that will make the government more ineffective in the eyes of the people? And who will get the territories of the non-native population?

The goverment approval this is a mechanic, that in other words shows a chaos in country. If approval is low chaos will happen if approval is strongly high — will not

Random event can make this more interesting, because great empires, in which core population is lower than any non-core might colapse. WOW. In second part you can assimilate the whole world and rebelions can't stop you.

[AleksGame 31]

3 minutes ago, Alexey Navalny said:

The goverment approval this is a mechanic, that in other words shows a chaos in country. If approval is low chaos will happen if approval is strongly high — will not

Random event can make this more interesting, because great empires, in which core population is lower than any non-core might colapse. WOW. In second part you can assimilate the whole world and rebelions can't stop you.

All right then

[Outlawexperience 212]

3 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

Approval rate could be changed by actions of the player/ai:

Big economic investments, the player/ai having more buildings/ upgrading them, winning wars, etc could change the approval rate positively

Declaring war (depending on the government, the more autoritarian, the less impact declaring war has on approval rate) A economy where the player/ai doesn't invest at all, doesn't have any buildings, losing wars, uprising and war devastation in the core provinces could impact the approval negatively

There could be common events that change the approval rate depending on the decisions chosen that happen randomly through the gameplay that gives the player/ai 2 choices to do

Either a good decision that will change the approval rate positively 

Or a bad decision that will change the approval rate negatively

There could be common events that either have a small or big impact on approval rate, the ones with small impact are more common than the events with big impact on approval rate, however, if there is a big chain of decisions that change approval rate negatively, then it could trigger more events that have a big impact on approval rate.

 

Some of these events could be for example: 

Title: Workers demand more rights

Description:  Many workers across cities have been complaining about the very bad conditions of working, and their low wages, they are demanding better working conditions and a higher wage.

Decision 1: Accept the demands

Effect: additional spending for 2 years (or more): 0.3/0.5/1/2 gold (depending on the size of the economy and population) Approval rate increases

Decision 2: Reject the demands:

Approval rate decreases, +2% uprising

 

Here are some of my ideas, what do you think about it ?

[AleksGame 31]

49 minutes ago, Outlawexperience said:

Approval rate could be changed by actions of the player/ai:

Big economic investments, the player/ai having more buildings/ upgrading them, winning wars, etc could change the approval rate positively

Declaring war (depending on the government, the more autoritarian, the less impact declaring war has on approval rate) A economy where the player/ai doesn't invest at all, doesn't have any buildings, losing wars, uprising and war devastation in the core provinces could impact the approval negatively

There could be common events that change the approval rate depending on the decisions chosen that happen randomly through the gameplay that gives the player/ai 2 choices to do

Either a good decision that will change the approval rate positively 

Or a bad decision that will change the approval rate negatively

There could be common events that either have a small or big impact on approval rate, the ones with small impact are more common than the events with big impact on approval rate, however, if there is a big chain of decisions that change approval rate negatively, then it could trigger more events that have a big impact on approval rate.

 

Some of these events could be for example: 

Title: Workers demand more rights

Description:  Many workers across cities have been complaining about the very bad conditions of working, and their low wages, they are demanding better working conditions and a higher wage.

Decision 1: Accept the demands

Effect: additional spending for 2 years (or more): 0.3/0.5/1/2 gold (depending on the size of the economy and population) Approval rate increases

Decision 2: Reject the demands:

Approval rate decreases, +2% uprising

 

Here are some of my ideas, what do you think about it ?

That's a VERY GOOD IDEA about the war 🤔

[samu_ 24]

8 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

Like losing a war or doing bad with the economy, things like that, or not stabilizing a province enough, they will rebel

[Hitler the secend 99]

On 4/3/2024 at 5:22 AM, Łukasz Jakowski said:

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

High taxes, too much war exhaustion and casualties in wars. Very long wars, Too much population diversity (having different kinds of people in your country) and very fast expansion could negatively affect government approval. 

Edited April 4 by Hitler the secend

[桑榆不是鱼 161]

On 4/3/2024 at 9:52 AM, Łukasz Jakowski said:

What changes Government approval?

What are the decisions that player have to make?

 

For now there is only list of outcomes of high government disapproval

1, excessive war-weariness
2, Lower than expected economic growth over the past year
3, Losses in wars, surrendering in a war leads to lower support over time
4, Provinces in starvation will lower the support level
5, using the highest tax bracket in peacetime for more than a certain period of time, different governments have different levels of tolerance
6, Too low of an economy, your populace has a much lower standard of living than the surrounding countries, and the gap is not decreasing. However if your standard of living is lower than the surrounding countries but you have a high rate of economic uplift then you are not penalized.
7, Reforms lead to a decrease in support, the exact value comes from the structure of your country, serfdom dominated countries will have more resentment towards reforms that abolish serfdom
8, from events, players can lower government support through events, or even skip these and just start a civil war
9, from turbulent secessionist provinces
10, from over-represented infidels

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[Taquito_Dictador 33]

On 2/4/2024 at 19:52, Łukasz Jakowski said:

¿Qué cambia  la aprobación del Gobierno?

¿Cuáles son las decisiones que ese jugador tiene que tomar?

 

Por ahora sólo hay lista de resultados de alta desaprobación gubernamental

Esta sería mi idea para las guerra civiles, parecida a esta idea.

 

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